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foal 11-17-2007 12:24 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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what's with you and hot dogs?
always with the hot dogs.

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pvn tries to keep things real simple for some posters like you.

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nothing simpler than a hot dog I guess. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


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were you close to your father?

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Unlikely in the way you seem to be familiar with.

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Err? I was making a Freudian psychoanalysis joke.

NeBlis 11-17-2007 01:40 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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For someone to come up with any good argument. IMO if your a kneejerk Dem then just about all the other candidates fit the bill with out Hillary's negatives.

I dont like any of them but it just seems shes the worst possible choice.

foal 11-17-2007 01:43 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
total agreement (from a dem)

NeBlis 11-17-2007 01:49 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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total agreement (from a dem)

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the best argument that I have heard is that "she can win".

Which I think is BS. IMO Obama, Richarson or Edwards have as much "win factor" if you take out Hillary. And hitching your cart to her horse on that alone is the type of thinking that got this country ( and american politics in general) where it is today.

foal 11-17-2007 02:40 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
Speaking cynically I think a black man has a better chance of winning than a woman. Not only that, but the right has been demonizing Hillary for so long that she appears to many as a very polarizing figure (even though she's a status quo corporate centrist who's probably closer to the republicans on foreign policy than any other democrat running). I disagree that Richardson is more electable, just because for whatever reason he's not that great of a speaker and comes off as a chump, fair or not. But Biden, Obama, Edwards and possibly Dodds I'd expect to be more electable than her.

Copernicus 11-17-2007 02:46 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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War on Terror: This is mostly about surrounding yourself with the right advisers. I suspect that a Cabinet formed by Sen. Clinton will contain many of the figures we saw in her Husband's Administration, which fought terrorism the right way IMO

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Ignoring it is fighting it the right way? Treating it as a law enforcement issue is fighting it the right way? Building walls between agencies that ensure there is no ability to "connect the dots" is fighting it the right way?

YDHAFC


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