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I_AM_EVIL 11-17-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
 
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Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt?

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he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge?

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Whats his name on Full Tilt bro?

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bestof6billion

markksman 11-17-2007 05:29 PM

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Someone with a ton of NL experience back then was probably someone who had played like 10,000 hands lifetime. Now with all the info available, with people who have played millions of hands and studied the game with tools like Pokerstove (keep in mind the Hellmuth who apparently crushed these games was the same one who thought AKo was a favorite over AK suited).... geez pre-boom games must've been 5x softer.

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How does this mesh with somethign Greenstein said here that the number of hands played is not important, the quality of opponent is... So someone who played one million hands against mediocre opponents would be owned by someone who played against the top players for 10,000 hands.

I also think live games and online games are SO different in how you play, that experience in one is of much less importance than experience in the one you will play.

blueodum 11-17-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
 
For those that are serious in defending Hellmuth as a tournament player - please address this:

Why have his WPT results been so mediocre, when a lot of the best tournament players around (by reputation) like Negreanu, S Nguyen, Ivey and Greenstein have done so much better in these events?

blueodum 11-17-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
 
By the way, isn't Hellmuth something like 0 for 7 on Poker After Dark?

TylerD 11-17-2007 08:30 PM

Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
 
How can people still not know Hellmuth's Full Tilt s/n? He plays the big games, like, literally every day.

SnowAngel 11-17-2007 08:38 PM

Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
 
I hate Hellmuth, he should get hit by a car. He whines like a bitch.

JokersAttack 11-17-2007 08:45 PM

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I hate Hellmuth, he should get hit by a car. He whines like a bitch.

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SuperUberBob 11-17-2007 09:04 PM

Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
 
Amount PH actually cares about anybody's opinion but his own = zero. It's all a facade to make himself more marketable. Seriously, everybody hates him. Yet, we can't stop talking about him.

Hellmuth wins. We all lose.

The guy has nothing to prove. He's loaded to the gills with cash. He could not play poker for the rest of his life and have more money than 99.9% of these pro poker players/gamblers.

Jazzy3113 11-18-2007 01:29 PM

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"When someone has ace high, you should bet"
-Jamie Gold

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Poopy_Pants 11-18-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
 
if phil h. never spoke he would be a hero. imo


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