Re: **** ALDS GAME 4 Tribe/Yanks (Byrd vs. Mussina)****
 

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And just a question - if Carmona was wearing a Red Sox or Yankees jersey, would you be convinced then?

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your post supports his viewpoint. he is very very good, but not at the Peavy/Johan level

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Re: **** ALDS GAME 4 Tribe/Yanks (Byrd vs. Mussina)****
 

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YEA SHIPP IT BABY WOOO

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Re: **** ALDS GAME 4 Tribe/Yanks (Byrd vs. Mussina)****
 

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And just a question - if Carmona was wearing a Red Sox or Yankees jersey, would you be convinced then?

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your post supports his viewpoint. he is very very good, but not at the Peavy/Johan level

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Yea, that and in my mind stuff is stuff, regardless of what jersey they're wearing. Those were some good links though, thx, I'm sure some people don't quite understand the grading of pitches and OFP, but I have a good grasp on it. A couple things that really surprised me were the ratings of 70 given to both Wang and Pettite. I could see Wang, but Pettite? Really? He doesn't seem to have the raw stuff to warrant that rating, but oh well.

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I think Pettite's rating is driven up by his command and composure. When I read "stuff" i think of the first third of categories the scouts rate. So Pettite may be average in that category, but he is pretty [censored] stellar in the second two.

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