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I'm going to post in this thread even though I'm not going to read it.

I'll be god damned if I'm not one of the top 100 NLHE poker players in the world, and I'm probably not one of the top 50 internet players.

I'll also be damned if even half of the top 20 are live players, or if ANY of the top 20 NLHE shorthanded players are live players.

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this tard still posts?

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I cant believe this post got this much attention. Of course the live guys would beat the internet guys in live, deep nlhe.

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If we make 2 assumptions

1. NL hold'em online is tougher when levels are compared 10"0 versus 10/20 etc

2. NL live top players are better than online players


If these are both true there gotta be a cutoff somewhere where the playing field is level. All that claim that top live players are better than internet players must hence have so much information to make that cutoff.

My questions are,

Which level is that?

I don't buy into any of this if someone claims,
well first we have the 20 live guys and then hmm directly after that we have 100 Internet guys and then the rest of the good live guys. It seems more like an ego thing if it is put that way.


Live players probably see some mistakes that internet players make due to the difference in agression in the games, they will learn that quick if the put some time to do it.

The live players probably play better against the fish at the high stakes but what is more interesting is if they take money off the good internet guys.

Re: Just Got Patrik Antonius Answer To The Question I Asked Kenny Tran
 

This thread and the last version of it is so dumb it's unbelievable.

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Whataburger = good malts.

I don't get why the answer is 0. Online players don't get enough respect

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Whataburger = good malts.


I don't get why the answer is 0. Online players don't get enough respect

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Maybe Patrik was thinking of this hand vs Sbrugby when he answered (Sorry about format and partial info)
London Cash Game (Live) (8-9 Handed) (Deep, both bought in for 500k)
I believe there was a check call from Patrik on 6-5h-Q no flush draw
Turn Kh, Patrik Check calls 20k from Sbrugby
River 4 (no heart) board reads 6 5 Q K 4 no flush
Patrik checks, Sbrugby Bets 40k(???) Patrik Check raises to 150k Sbrugby Calls (???)
What about this river bet? Does he think Antonius is some loose calling station? And then calls?

from here, should be on tv or youtube in near future
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/poker-blog/..._the_titans.php

Sbrugby also played too aggressively on high stakes poker (8 handed, deep) and seemed to lose at least 100k on mostly bad semi bluffs into strong hands
I realize it's unfair to single him out but he's really the only one who's played significantly on these shows, with this exact criteria.

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oops forgot, Patrik had 66 for set, sbrugby QJ, that might of helped...lol

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What about this river bet?

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lol @ monkeys trying to valuebet w/ less than top pair

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What about this river bet?

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lol @ monkeys trying to valuebet w/ less than top pair

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yeah, you're right, he played it great...

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What about this river bet?

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lol @ monkeys trying to valuebet w/ less than top pair

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yeah, you're right, he played it great...

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I like it a lot.

OH WAIT HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN PATRIK HAD A SET SINCE HE CHECKED THREE TIMES.

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I put Jwc on ignore the other day, I'd recommend others doing the same so I don't have to read his quoted [censored].

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What about this river bet?

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lol @ monkeys trying to valuebet w/ less than top pair

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yeah, you're right, he played it great...

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based on your comment about the original river bet i dont think your thoughts on his play are relevant at all. I would not call the river raise usually but there are def. situations where it can be ok.

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Regarding the very big, live game, full table NLH games

0 atm

easily 10-15 if they'd adjust (LAG not so good)

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God if I weren't so lazy I would read all of inyourace and plo8facekilla's posts and point out all the logical fallacies.

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God if I weren't so lazy I would read all of inyourace and plo8facekilla's posts and point out all the logical fallacies.

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you don't have proof, that's why you didn't do it.

PA is your idol and he said exactly what you didn't want him to say.

Just accept that and move on

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Whataburger = good malts.


I don't get why the answer is 0. Online players don't get enough respect

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Maybe Patrik was thinking of this hand vs Sbrugby when he answered (Sorry about format and partial info)
London Cash Game (Live) (8-9 Handed) (Deep, both bought in for 500k)
I believe there was a check call from Patrik on 6-5h-Q no flush draw
Turn Kh, Patrik Check calls 20k from Sbrugby
River 4 (no heart) board reads 6 5 Q K 4 no flush
Patrik checks, Sbrugby Bets 40k(???) Patrik Check raises to 150k Sbrugby Calls (???)
What about this river bet? Does he think Antonius is some loose calling station? And then calls?

from here, should be on tv or youtube in near future
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/poker-blog/..._the_titans.php

Sbrugby also played too aggressively on high stakes poker (8 handed, deep) and seemed to lose at least 100k on mostly bad semi bluffs into strong hands
I realize it's unfair to single him out but he's really the only one who's played significantly on these shows, with this exact criteria.

[/ QUOTE ]So you don't think Patrik ever makes loose calls, especially against Aba? Think your read on him is a little off.

If you want to know what both Patrik and Brian were thinking in this hand then read their blogs, they've both talked about it.

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So you don't think Patrik ever makes loose calls, especially against Aba? Think your read on him is a little off.If you want to know what both Patrik and Brian were thinking in this hand then read their blogs, they've both talked about it.

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was only commenting on it being 9 handed, where hand values go down, and it seems more like a heads-up hand, where their history was drawn from. Couldnt find Brian's blog on it, but Patrik did say he's never played like this with set, which explains Brian's play somewhat.(I just think Patrik folds worse here, Heads-up probably not)
Not sure either of these 2 care about 9 handed since they are some of the best shorthanded, which requires more skill anyways.
BTW D.S should have asked both Kenny and Patrik if they were in this immortal top 20 list of 9 handers.