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RedJoker 04-23-2007 02:51 AM

Re: Late Night Turbage
 
[]soah -
<font color="red"> [1]lastchance – Dustin
[1]dustin – lastchance </font>


3:15 good, 3:16 not. But server might go down before that.

lastchance 04-23-2007 02:51 AM

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Dustin, that's stupid. # of posts has nothing to do with whether or not someone's a villager.

DustinG 04-23-2007 02:51 AM

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i was still rereading- but I still think Bojtun is a wolf here. fwiw I cleared him after D1 in the last turbo and was right. probably im wrong here but I want to lynch him to see


chuckles might not get killed here if the wolves dont believe him, even if soah is village

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I'll need an explanation for all parts of this post too

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twice lately I've faked seered as a villager. Thats why I thought maybe waiting on chuckles was smart- then I quickly realized that wasnt a good idea

its not like I knew who the kill was before I saw it, then I just posted what I thought

lastchance 04-23-2007 02:52 AM

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Dustin, that's stupid. # of posts has nothing to do with whether or not someone's a villager.

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Unless it's player-specific, of course.

soah 04-23-2007 02:52 AM

Re: Late Night Turbage
 
lastchance, why didn't you leave fake seer hints d2? it's standard there, yeah?

DustinG 04-23-2007 02:52 AM

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Dustin, that's stupid. # of posts has nothing to do with whether or not someone's a villager.

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yeah- but I can also talk in good long complete sentences that are from the heart, while all you can do is be a wolf.

lastchance 04-23-2007 02:53 AM

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lastchance, why didn't you leave fake seer hints d2? it's standard there, yeah?

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Because bojtun decided to claim before I could.

DustinG 04-23-2007 02:54 AM

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you might want to explain how you had chuckles as your secondary suspect but when the wagons are obviously chuckles/redjoker, you don't vote for chuckles

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ok, I dont even think I ever mentioned chuckles as a suspect.

yeah I did- I said I was fine with him. But its not like I thought RJ was better.

look at me the whole last game where I just voted dmk every day

I thought boj was evil so I voted him

soah 04-23-2007 02:55 AM

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I still like bojtun but chuckles could be a wolf too

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DustinG 04-23-2007 02:55 AM

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Soah,

Im really not this good of a wolf- especially in turbos. I dont go after Boj the way I did as a wolf- I realize that was also Shorty's doing too- but I liked it and agreed with- and he really was wolfy and different from the last game and thats what I saw. My wolf game isnt so good like that.

DustinG 04-23-2007 02:56 AM

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I still like bojtun but chuckles could be a wolf too

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I didnt see anything villagery from chuckles so that means he could be evil. But I didnt have an opinion on RJ either.

DustinG 04-23-2007 02:58 AM

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Soah, do you really think I kill AS8 there?

maybe I do but it would sorta be insane. In the earlier game today As8 turbo voted me to lose and here he said he was voting LC %100. why would I expect him to be less implusive this game? maybe from the last game idk

soah 04-23-2007 03:29 AM

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I voted for lastchance via AIM. He was a werewolf. Village wins.

lastchance 04-23-2007 03:43 AM

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Should have had that final day. Be more aggro as a wolf, LC. Be more confident.

RedJoker 04-23-2007 03:44 AM

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I voted for lastchance via AIM. He was a werewolf. Village wins.

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ZOMG AIM IS RIGGED

bojtun 04-23-2007 03:50 AM

Re: Late Night Turbage
 
LC, apologies for the "[censored] you." That's not my style in this game or life. I sincerely apologize.

For the VILLAGERS (heh) who might critique my coming out when I did as bad, the last time I was a seer, I had a live villager and a wolf on Day 2 and got majority semi-turbo lynched. I was told I should have come out then, so I figured with two live villagers and an obvious fake in chuckles that I should come out. Plus, since I didn't switch off chuckles the previous day I was kind of surprised to be alive. I could have gone with "clear" peeks on the day I came out, but the last time I thought I left clear peeks, they were misconstrued.

DustinG 04-23-2007 03:53 AM

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turbosoah (12:02:07 AM) has entered the room.
LuckayLuck (12:02:07 AM) has entered the room.
Lowball Plath (12:02:07 AM) has entered the room.
RedJoker1986 (12:02:11 AM) has entered the room.
lastchanceXV (12:02:16 AM) has been invited.
ad88am88 (12:02:36 AM) has been invited.
Ad88am88 (12:02:40 AM) has entered the room.
Lowball Plath (12:03:14 AM): 2p2 isnt usually down for that long right now I think
Invitation result for buddy lastchanceXV : Invite or request timed out
lastchanceXV (12:03:17 AM) has entered the room.
lastchanceXV (12:03:23 AM): sup guys?
Lowball Plath (12:03:34 AM): ok
turbosoah (12:03:36 AM): it was down 30 minutes several times the past week
Ad88am88 (12:03:44 AM): it takes forever sometimes
lastchanceXV (12:03:50 AM): meh, yeah
Lowball Plath (12:03:52 AM): so, do we finish here or not?
turbosoah (12:03:56 AM): that's the plan
Ad88am88 (12:03:57 AM): i vote here
Ad88am88 (12:04:04 AM): gg gl hf no more talking
turbosoah (12:04:12 AM): give me some final statements or something
Lowball Plath (12:04:17 AM): ok, I'm cool with unless soah wants to me
Lowball Plath (12:04:21 AM): are you leaning me or not?
turbosoah (12:04:31 AM): pretend I am and tell me why not
Lowball Plath (12:04:39 AM): I have a hard time taking this seriously unless I know you really are
lastchanceXV (12:04:42 AM): I think my chuckles CSS interaction
lastchanceXV (12:04:44 AM): is villagery
Lowball Plath (12:04:54 AM): shorty can read me
Lowball Plath (12:04:59 AM): he didnt think I was evil
lastchanceXV (12:04:59 AM): and I threw my wolf partner under the bus d1, which is moranic
Lowball Plath (12:05:04 AM): luckay thought I was good
lastchanceXV (12:05:04 AM): umm...turbosoah (12:05:11 AM): you threw your wolf partner under the bus?
lastchanceXV (12:05:15 AM): lol
lastchanceXV (12:05:21 AM): no
lastchanceXV (12:05:24 AM): If I was a wolf
Lowball Plath (12:05:27 AM): shorty had chuckles D1
lastchanceXV (12:05:31 AM): I would've thrown my wolf partner under the bus
lastchanceXV (12:05:34 AM): which is moranic
Lowball Plath (12:05:50 AM): with shorty on him he was already dead
Lowball Plath (12:05:55 AM): maybe not idk
lastchanceXV (12:06:03 AM): not really
lastchanceXV (12:06:06 AM): some people don't listen to shorty
lastchanceXV (12:06:24 AM): on top of that
lastchanceXV (12:06:28 AM): my squawk post
bosox126 (12:06:29 AM) has entered the room.
Lowball Plath (12:06:33 AM): lets see. really I wish you could read me on tone soah and not on my actions this game
bosox126 (12:06:42 AM): lol
lastchanceXV (12:06:43 AM): is too clever, too funny, and just too awesome from me as a wolf
bosox126 (12:06:45 AM): this is awesome
lastchanceXV (12:06:46 AM): it doesn't care
lastchanceXV (12:06:53 AM): yup
turbosoah (12:07:12 AM): vote lastchance
lastchanceXV (12:07:19 AM): yeah
Ad88am88 (12:07:20 AM): yayyyyyyy
lastchanceXV (12:07:21 AM): you got it
Lowball Plath (12:07:23 AM): yeah
lastchanceXV (12:07:28 AM): I didn't really play that well
lastchanceXV (12:07:29 AM): :/
RedJoker1986 (12:07:29 AM): good job soah
lastchanceXV (12:07:31 AM): Stupid AIM
lastchanceXV (12:07:32 AM): :P
Ad88am88 (12:07:33 AM): soah were u just messing with dustin?
turbosoah (12:07:37 AM): I was gonna vote for dustin today
bosox126 (12:07:37 AM): lol and a half
lastchanceXV (12:07:38 AM): nope
lastchanceXV (12:07:43 AM): he was going to vote dustin
Ad88am88 (12:07:49 AM): woooow
lastchanceXV (12:07:51 AM): but I killed you
Ad88am88 (12:07:51 AM): explain?
bosox126 (12:07:53 AM): streak continues
lastchanceXV (12:07:56 AM): instead of soah
lastchanceXV (12:08:01 AM): because
lastchanceXV (12:08:03 AM): you turbovote me
lastchanceXV (12:08:06 AM): and don't rethink

lastchance 04-23-2007 03:54 AM

Re: Late Night Turbage
 
It's just tactics, IMHO.

The major difference between this spot and that spot is because you know chuckles is a wolf here. We all know (or should know) that chuckles is a wolf, lol. LOL dustin, and whoever didn't vote for chuckles.

By lynching him, everyone can just say those magic words, "If I'm the seer, I peeked xxx and xxx both villagers."

This is a spot for blatant pwnage of the wolf, and an easy freeroll.

Yeah, you have a 90% win if you come out, but I think that's a spot where you should have a 90% win + a good chance of a sheer lock.

I don't think I kill you if you don't come out, and that's a pure lock situation for you.

lastchance 04-23-2007 03:56 AM

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The above is sincere. I actually think it was a bad play. If I agree with it (in reality), I keep my mouth shut.

bojtun 04-23-2007 03:56 AM

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FWIW I peeked LL when I was eaten

; - (

lastchance 04-23-2007 03:57 AM

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In a 9 player turbo, you must get the wolf lynched before trying to freeroll.

If you can get the wolf lynched (and here, I think it's really likely that you would have), go for the freeroll.

LuckayLuck 04-23-2007 03:57 AM

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what lc is saying is that whether or not to come out there is a complete freeroll, because it won't be must-lynch tomorrow if we lynch chuckles

what you can do is something like:

"If I'm the seer (I'm not saying I am the seer, wink wink, nudge nudge!) I peeked soah and as8 as villagers."

Then, you push for chuckles hard. That way, if you die that night, then no loss, you were the seer and we know your peeks. If you live, then we win. Freerolling

LuckayLuck 04-23-2007 03:58 AM

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If chuckles hadn't basically been an outed wolf though, then coming out as the seer there is 100% the right thing to do

bojtun 04-23-2007 03:58 AM

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So, when I didn't switch off chuckles, you guys didn't consider me seer?

lastchance 04-23-2007 03:59 AM

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Of course, if you're actually getting lynched, then actually claim. But I don't think you would've gotten lynched there.

lastchance 04-23-2007 04:00 AM

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So, when I didn't switch off chuckles, you guys didn't consider me seer?

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Not at all. We just assumed you were rereading or something.

LuckayLuck 04-23-2007 04:00 AM

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So, when I didn't switch off chuckles, you guys didn't consider me seer?

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I assume you were afk =p
seers probably switch off chuckles there, to live another day

lastchance 04-23-2007 04:01 AM

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So, when I didn't switch off chuckles, you guys didn't consider me seer?

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I assume you were afk =p
seers probably switch off chuckles there, to live another day

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I would, shortline would, luckay would, soah would. Most of the people who did switch off him do it as the seer. It's a really easy spot to lynch chuckles tomorrow and screw over wolf team with freeroll type stuff.

bojtun 04-23-2007 04:02 AM

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what lc is saying is that whether or not to come out there is a complete freeroll, because it won't be must-lynch tomorrow if we lynch chuckles

what you can do is something like:

"If I'm the seer (I'm not saying I am the seer, wink wink, nudge nudge!) I peeked soah and as8 as villagers."

Then, you push for chuckles hard. That way, if you die that night, then no loss, you were the seer and we know your peeks. If you live, then we win. Freerolling

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Yeah, i get it. My main reason for coming out was because last time as seer, I said "LL is a wolf" and "Dustin has got to be village here."

I also said, "So, Matrix, this is your wolf game" and somehow that over-rode "LL is a wolf"

So, I'll just do a "if I was seer" bit next time

lastchance 04-23-2007 04:04 AM

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Yeah. Learning to drop effective hints is hard, but in this particular spot (with a practically outed wolf, and with villagers being able to fake really easily), you can definitely say If I'm seer, instead of just implying it.

In long games and in other spots, it's not that good a play. But in that spot, do it, and win.

bojtun 04-23-2007 04:04 AM

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Of course, if you're actually getting lynched, then actually claim. But I don't think you would've gotten lynched there.

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Dustin's vote scared me ... wolves could pile on. Of course, they would have given themselves away OR set-up Dustin for a lynch. I'll admit it wasn't 100 percent best seer play, but I don't think it was terrible.

lastchance 04-23-2007 04:08 AM

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Of course, if you're actually getting lynched, then actually claim. But I don't think you would've gotten lynched there.

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Dustin's vote scared me ... wolves could pile on. Of course, they would have given themselves away OR set-up Dustin for a lynch. I'll admit it wasn't 100 percent best seer play, but I don't think it was terrible.

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2 villagers need to vote you for something like that to happen, so be careful, but yeah. And I just can't see myself thinking that chuckles isn't the wolf there as a villager (though I probably should've said something to that effect, and went through the process of making sure chuckles is the wolf).

Just keep refreshing, keep your seer claim in reverse and get chuckles lynched.


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