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KingOtter 08-06-2007 10:17 PM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
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Yeah went to SD 29% is HUGE. I just got done with a NL session at 100 NL where my went to SD was 11, though normally its closer to 20.

-DeathDonkey

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Eeek... is that full ring? I just played a 377 hand 6-max session and my WTSD is 27.82. And I was thinking I was over-folding (in fact, I did fold a couple winners).

futuredoc85 08-07-2007 12:16 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
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Yeah went to SD 29% is HUGE. I just got done with a NL session at 100 NL where my went to SD was 11, though normally its closer to 20.

-DeathDonkey

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Eeek... is that full ring? I just played a 377 hand 6-max session and my WTSD is 27.82. And I was thinking I was over-folding (in fact, I did fold a couple winners).

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377 hands isnt really enough to for that stat to matter, but 27 is def too high for a long term WTSD @ 6max, but over that sample you probably made lots of hands w/ showdown value.

Josh. 08-07-2007 12:17 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
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Yeah went to SD 29% is HUGE. I just got done with a NL session at 100 NL where my went to SD was 11, though normally its closer to 20.

-DeathDonkey

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Eeek... is that full ring? I just played a 377 hand 6-max session and my WTSD is 27.82. And I was thinking I was over-folding (in fact, I did fold a couple winners).

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377 hands isnt really enough to for that stat to matter, but 27 is def too high for a long term WTSD @ 6max, but over that sample you probably made lots of hands w/ showdown value.

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not true at all

DeathDonkey 08-07-2007 01:03 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
I was talking about 6 max. I think 27 is high but maybe Josh has managed to pull off a showdown-esque style [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-DeathDonkey

Josh. 08-07-2007 01:17 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
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I was talking about 6 max. I think 27 is high but maybe Josh has managed to pull off a showdown-esque style [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-DeathDonkey

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no im like 23 but plenty of winners have high wtsd

Victor 08-07-2007 01:45 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
im at 25 over 30k hands.

futuredoc85 08-07-2007 02:45 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
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Yeah went to SD 29% is HUGE. I just got done with a NL session at 100 NL where my went to SD was 11, though normally its closer to 20.

-DeathDonkey

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Eeek... is that full ring? I just played a 377 hand 6-max session and my WTSD is 27.82. And I was thinking I was over-folding (in fact, I did fold a couple winners).

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377 hands isnt really enough to for that stat to matter, but 27 is def too high for a long term WTSD @ 6max, but over that sample you probably made lots of hands w/ showdown value.

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not true at all

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ive always been told that mine (~25%) is too high, i guess it depends on the games you're playing in though b/c mine at 2/4 is higher than it was at 1/2 w/ a similar winrate.

sethypooh21 08-07-2007 04:52 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
I feel like the scene in goodfellas when Henry gets arrested for the first time...my first massively frustrating bordeline tilty NL session.

This is how I rock...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($267.25)
Hero ($506.70)
SB ($166)
BB ($200)
UTG ($202.70)
MP ($421.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $12.

Flop: ($35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $186.7 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $186.70.

Turn: ($0) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($0) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $408.40

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 4h Qh (two pair, queens and fours).
Hero has Qd As (one pair, queens).
Outcome: UTG wins $408.40. </font>

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($290.10)
UTG ($178.70)
MP ($427.30)
CO ($95.65)
Button ($197)
Hero ($226.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $27</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $19.

Flop: ($56) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $170</font>, Hero calls $125.

Turn: ($396) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($396) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $396

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 4s As (high card, ace).
Button has Jc Tc (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Button wins $396. </font>

Grunch 08-07-2007 09:50 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
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I was talking about 6 max. I think 27 is high but maybe Josh has managed to pull off a showdown-esque style [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-DeathDonkey

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no im like 23 but plenty of winners have high wtsd

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I'm at about 22 with a W@SD of around 48

Jigsaws 08-07-2007 11:10 AM

Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
 
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I feel like the scene in goodfellas when Henry gets arrested for the first time...my first massively frustrating bordeline tilty NL session.

This is how I rock...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($290.10)
UTG ($178.70)
MP ($427.30)
CO ($95.65)
Button ($197)
Hero ($226.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $27</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $19.

Flop: ($56) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $170</font>, Hero calls $125.

Turn: ($396) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($396) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $396

Results in below:
Hero has 4s As (high card, ace).
Button has Jc Tc (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Button wins $396.

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Whoops. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

There is some reason to this madness. You had not been repopping me yet at all. With how much I was raising Button/CO, I knew you were going to raise me sooner or later, with or without a hand. I wanted to set up the flow of the tables so that you would not be 3betting me at will. I wanted you to feel that if you were going to 3bet me, you're going to have deal with fireworks. It's an image I'm experimenting with - sorry you had to be the victim.

And I really should've check-folded the river when you rivered that flush.


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