Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
 

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Moreso, I think FT's bot detection methods are more sophisticated than I originally thought.


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Only a couple people who've posted in this thread really have any idea what techniques FT has at their disposal to identify botters. They won't say anything specific for very obvious reasons.

Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
 

when i opened this thread I didnt know it was 8 pages long. lol. I read thebeatme1 thread months ago even before people were making accusations of it being the same person I was thinking that. mike haven should check the i.p addresses.

Also i think it is pretty [censored] up to take someones money for stats being similiar to bots stats. they need to make it clear to people on these forums why there doing these things, other than "stats".

also gehrig and mike gatorade you both sound like douchebags

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also gehrig and mike gatorade you both sound like douchebags

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I think a lot of people agree with this judging by comments here and in other threads. Can I just ask why?

It is a serious question as I havn't searched (sorry). They just seem intent on exposing bots.

(BTW - sorry for my dumb cliff notes above - I was drunk. But now I'm sober)

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also gehrig and mike gatorade you both sound like douchebags

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I think a lot of people agree with this judging by comments here and in other threads. Can I just ask why?


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Bc people are wrong. I think gehrig's tone in this thread has been professional and reasonable.

Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
 

I have checked the IP addresses of posts, and I cannot see any correlation. No doubt, other mods will have checked them too, and will correct me if I'm wrong.

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also gehrig and mike gatorade you both sound like douchebags

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I think a lot of people agree with this judging by comments here and in other threads. Can I just ask why?

It is a serious question as I havn't searched (sorry). They just seem intent on exposing bots.

(BTW - sorry for my dumb cliff notes above - I was drunk. But now I'm sober)

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Cheers!

Does anyone knows BTW why Gatorade stopped updating his website after 12th of July?

Otherwise on the topic - of course freezing account for so long is nonsense. Especially in bot detection. You either have evidence of automated play or not. You either have technical/statistical evidence of multiaccounting or not. What one needs to investigate for 20 days ?!

Investigating bots is useless, especiallty if producing issues for all players. Investiating multi accounting is perfect, but I don't see how this should take more than a day to be conclusive.

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Silly Sal has been playing for about 2 years. Just recently she was accused of being a bot. All account monies are confiscated. Shouldn't they just confiscate the money since she became a bot, since with their sophisticated software system they will know exactly when this began.

I'm not saying she is innocent or guilty--I really don't care. But why should all of her money be confiscated if she only recently (if you believe the accusations) became a bot?

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Silly Sal has been playing for about 2 years. Just recently she was accused of being a bot. All account monies are confiscated. Shouldn't they just confiscate the money since she became a bot, since with their sophisticated software system they will know exactly when this began.

I'm not saying she is innocent or guilty--I really don't care. But why should all of her money be confiscated if she only recently (if you believe the accusations) became a bot?

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But why should all of her money be confiscated if she only recently (if you believe the accusations) became a bot?

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because they specifically state if you [censored] with our TOS we will confiscate all of your monies. sillysal agreed to their policy when she played on ftp. its better that way, since there is no punishment for cheating in online poker, this is the maximum punishment, and it should be enforced.

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I'm not saying she is innocent or guilty--I really don't care. But why should all of her money be confiscated if she only recently (if you believe the accusations) became a bot?

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1. A strong penalty is needed to deter other players from using bots.

2. Investigating bots is expensive and the guilty should pay for the damage they do.

3. Botters destroy public trust in the game. Once again the guilty should pay for the enormous harm they cause to the sites.

4. The players who beat the bot expect to keep their winnings. The players who lost deserve to be compensated. When a good player makes $10K (made up number) in a month that usually means they won something like $40K while losing $30K. You can't compensate all the people who lost to the bot just by taking the profits.

5. Money won by cheating is money you stole. Money lost by cheating is tough luck. Every pot the bot won should be confiscated with no offset for losses.