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I'm changing my vote if Kbar claims seer. But I agree with Dustin in that kbar is basically the best d1 lynch that I can find so far.

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I'm changing my vote if Kbar claims seer. But I agree with Dustin in that kbar is basically the best d1 lynch that I can find so far.

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Actually, I think LC's post is correct

It's been a long time since I've felt this confident on d1

He didn't even acknowledge us, he just started metagaming and then when LC just plain out asks he just says 'no'

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Wait, so Kenny is definitely Neil Stevens?

Obviously if I was impersonating Neil I'd know enough to add a few "heh"s and put my votes in weird brackets

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[0] bojtun
[0] bravos1
[0] Monk
[0] chuckles
[2] clown voted for kenny
[0] dustin voted for kbar
[0] fish voted for clown
[2] fmxda voted for shorty
[0] fnord
[0] Gt1t voted for fmxda
<font color="red"> [4] kbar voted for fmxda </font>
[1] Kenny voted for clown
[0] lastchance voted for kbar
[1] Luckay
[0] Nez voted for kbar
[0] Nich
[0] Scott voted for kbar
[1] shorty voted for luckay
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine

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Kenny is definitely Neil Stevens

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heh

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heh

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah I thought with my new game I might not need to signal the people who use inverted reads on me, but Nez proved otherwise, so I had to give up early and throw that out there.

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Nez's posts are more accurate about my feelings of kbar than Neil's.

Kbar is a wolf. Lynch him. Please, please, please lynch him.

I have never felt this good about lynching somebody on d1.

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Nez's posts are more accurate about my feelings of kbar than Neil's.

Kbar is a wolf. Lynch him. Please, please, please lynch him.

I have never felt this good about lynching somebody on d1.

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That was overdoing it. :/

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I'd rather have a second wagon instead of just pushing kbar though. If we just go all out for kbar and he's a villager, then today gets semi-wasted.

However if we have two solid wagons and kbar's a villager, then we can still possibly learn things.

So I'm still with Scott. kbar/clown works for me.

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I seem to have missed the post where kbar claimed wolf, anyone care to point it out to me?

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Let's make the second wagon a kenny wagon.

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I seem to have missed the post where kbar claimed wolf, anyone care to point it out to me?

[/ QUOTE ]I wasn't aware that he had claimed wolf.

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Supine is my number one villager read

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Really, I'm less than convinced.

I'm liking my vote right now after his first post.

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no

I'm not convinced he is a villager, but I'm also not convinced he is a wolf. Calling him a number one village read is a stretch imo, but I'm not willing to vote him yet.

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And goddamn, kbar feels completely evil.

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Thats quite a read you think you have to make that statement after 3 posts.

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Kbar said something about not having a read on a player and being minorly inconsistent and specific.

Basically, it comes down to this. Why are you telling someone that you don't think someone is a villager when you don't think they are wolves? This is basically what kbar did at the start of the day and it is very wolfy.

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That is not what I said. Nez said that Supine was his strongest villager read, and I disagreed. That doesn't mean I think Supine is a wolf, just that I'm not sold on him being 100% villager like Nez seemed to think.

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I didn't say that he feels completely evil, I just meant that of the people that had posted, I felt he was the best vote. Let's please nitpick every post of mine.

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early early results:

clown
kbar
monk
shorty

2-3 wolves in there for sure

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I'm not a fan of any of those tbh.

I really feel that, except maybe fmxda, no wolves have posted yet.

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These posts are all individually wolfy. Taken together (considering the way they mesh, who he's talking to, the fact that he has 4-5 people already wanting to lynch him), it's basically a wolf claim.

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Taken together (considering the way they mesh, who he's talking to, <font color="red"> the fact that he has 4-5 people already wanting to lynch him </font> ), it's basically a wolf claim.

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Seems kinda weak considering how convinced everyone seems. And the part in red feels like bad/very-un-lastchance reasoning.

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Fish,
If you had to lynch one person right now who would it be?

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Fish,
If you had to lynch one person right now who would it be?

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clown

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It's because of his response while under pressure.

When you are an early d1 wagon, I don't think you play the way kbar plays. And you don't respond to me or scott (who are pushing kbar) the way he is.

Look at his post to scott. I think it's weird that he responds even remotely rationally/non-angrily to someone shoving him (especially after early weak shoves where he got really defensive).

Why the hell does he calm down after being defensive in the first place?

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Taken together (considering the way they mesh, who he's talking to, <font color="red"> the fact that he has 4-5 people already wanting to lynch him </font> ), it's basically a wolf claim.

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Seems kinda weak considering how convinced everyone seems. And the part in red feels like bad/very-un-lastchance reasoning.

[/ QUOTE ]Hmm, you're right, that is somewhat unlike him. He's the king of calling out "DADV," which is a rule that runs against a clear unimpeded lynch that everyone seems to support.

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Alright, bridge is on for tonight. I think Lastchance is villager. I don't have a good second wagon, and dont have the time to find one. Kbar is fine though

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I agree with everything LC just said about Kbar

none of his posting fits him being a villager under early pressure

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Also, he shouldn't respond to me with a post like this (not to be LC-centric, but it's true):
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That is not what I said. Nez said that Supine was his strongest villager read, and I disagreed. That doesn't mean I think Supine is a wolf, just that I'm not sold on him being 100% villager like Nez seemed to think.

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And seriously, WTF is he saying here. I don't have a read on someone so your villager read is bad/not good? Also, dustin's right in that tone-wise, it's very wolfy/weirdly specific. And content is wolfy because he should be more angsty/less willing to talk to me after saying this:
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Thats quite a read you think you have to make that statement after 3 posts.

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[0] bojtun
[0] bravos1
[0] Bulletproof Monk
[0] chuckleslovakian voted for kbar13
[2] clowntable voted for Kenny McCormick
[0] DustinG voted for kbar13
[0] fishmonger voted for clowntable
[2] fmxda voted for shortline99
[0] fnord_too
[0] GetThere1Time voted for fmxda
<font color="red"> [5] kbar13 voted for fmxda </font>
[2] Kenny McCormick voted for clowntable
[0] lastchance voted for kbar13
[0] LuckayLuck
[0] Nez477 voted for kbar13
[0] Nicholasp27
[0] ScottHoward v3.1 voted for kbar13
[1] shortline99 voted for Kenny McCormick
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine
[0] VoraciousReader

<font color="green"> 10:00 No good </font>
Majority Lynch = 11

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also, I dont like the clown votes because clown is being weird

If we want a 2nd wagon, GT1T?!

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Kbar isn't just the wolfiest poster in this thread (by a long way). He is the wolfiest poster I have ever seen this early in a long game.

Everything he posts is specific/weirdly defensive, without being defensive. He isn't posting like he thinks he's a villager (let alone actually being one).

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also, I dont like the clown votes because clown is being weird

If we want a 2nd wagon, GT1T?!

[/ QUOTE ]Actually now that I think about it, there's a difference between clown's ASXV game and his game so far here. In ASXV he was deliberately absurd. Here he's being 'off', but not in a kooky way.

So ASXV shouldn't absolve him from a lynch today, and so I'm all the more in favor of trying clown today. clown/kbar should be a good pair today.

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For the record if we lynch kbar and he's a wolf I'm not clearing lastchance.

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also, I dont like the clown votes because clown is being weird

If we want a 2nd wagon, GT1T?!

[/ QUOTE ]Actually now that I think about it, there's a difference between clown's ASXV game and his game so far here. In ASXV he was deliberately absurd. Here he's being 'off', but not in a kooky way.

So ASXV shouldn't absolve him from a lynch today, and so I'm all the more in favor of trying clown today. clown/kbar should be a good pair today.

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Been trying to figure out how to say this.

In ASXV he was obviously weird, but also clearly not even trying to look like he was making an effort. In this thread his posts are more about trying to create an illusion of activity.

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Ok, I reread some of kbar's games. He is defensive, but he isn't weird. His posts this game don't give off any defensive feel, they give off the wishy-washy "don't lynch me" feel.

Plus, who the hell is so freaking specific and caring about a no-read post (and makes that post in the first place)? From reread, I don't think it's kbar-villager, I think it's kbar wolf. So wolfy.

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Just looked over day 1, it did not yield many insights.

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Also, isn't kbar ALWAYS labeled wolfy day one regardless? or am I thinking of arronk?

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In ASXV he was obviously weird, but also clearly not even trying to look like he was making an effort. In this thread his posts are more about trying to create an illusion of activity.

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I wouldn't go so far as to say that about Clown.

He isn't making any effort to be villagery at all- and this is different than how he acted D1 of Pirates II (if Im allowed to bring up that game).

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I think you're thinking of aaronk.

I've reread a few of his games now, and while he can be wolfy, he isn't this style of wolfy, and he's way, way more defensive/angsty than he's been here.

If you could pull up some games where he gets pushed early as a villager, sure.

But he's also posted way more here than in most games early (and also, IMHO, pretty wolfily).

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Also, isn't kbar ALWAYS labeled wolfy day one regardless? or am I thinking of arronk?

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you're right on both of them. but there is a difference between being labeled wolfy, and actually being a wolf.

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nobody is talking about GT1T, who I think is being weird. Thoughts?

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and yes, some villager get villager points or don't even deserve mention for being weird (shorty, clown) and others I want to talk about.

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Just looked over day 1, it did not yield many insights.

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ok, on my dinner break and almost choked on a burrito when I read this.

Fnord, I've never played with you ... do you get lynched a lot on D1s?

Is that part in bold your typical posting style as a villager?

If it is and you get lynched early a lot. That's why.

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and yes, some villager get villager points or don't even deserve mention for being weird (shorty, clown) and others I want to talk about.

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Dustin, this doesn't make any sense. What are you saying?

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and yes, some villager get villager points or don't even deserve mention for being weird (shorty, clown) and others I want to talk about.

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Dustin, this doesn't make any sense. What are you saying?

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replace villager w/ people and it should be clearer