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magne87 08-09-2007 06:14 PM

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I found a link with some more online documentaries. I have not seen many of them, so I dont know if everyone s working.
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/9

Is there anyone that has a torrent to 51 Birch street? I would love to see it, but Its hard to find it in Norway

MicroBob 08-15-2007 01:48 AM

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The documentary that I mentioned previously The Big Bang from 1989 is on cable tonight.
2:40am on Flix if you get that channel. It comes with my cable package.

It's on a few more times this week on that channel too.

I'm going to try to stay up and watch it but I'm really freaking tired so might only make it part-way and then catch the rest later this week.

It's just a bunch of clips of interviews of a few random people asking them things about love, life, etc.
IMO, the film has a good heart.
But I haven't seen it for years and my tastes have changed some so not sure if I'll like it as much.

Rococo 08-15-2007 01:35 PM

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For true fans of the genre, I would recommend anything by Frederick Wiseman. He style is highly obversational and very unique. Although there is very little in the way of narration or interviews in his movies, they are still powerful.

Wiseman

sublime 09-14-2007 10:00 AM

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Paradise Lost
Berlinger and Sinofsky's documentary of a gruesome triple murder in West Memphis, Arkansas and the subsequent trials of three suspects, takes a hard look at both the occult and the American justice system in 'small-town' America. Three teenagers are accused of this horrific crime of killing three children, supposedly as a result of involvement in Satanism. As in their previous documentary, things turn out to be more complex than initial appearances and this film presents the real-life courtroom drama to the viewer, as it unfolds.

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I'd like to reiterate how good this was. I would be surprised if anyone could watch this and not come away thinking that the kids convicted of murder aren't innocent.

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just watched this and am not sure where i land...the only person in the whole ordeal who seemed capable of something so gruesome was the stepfather john mark byers (wow, what a freak). the kids seemed odd, but when you look at the parents of these kids i suppose they are more 'normal' then we suspect. as usual, the incompetence of the PD in these large cases is revealed and usually prevents the actual truth from coming out.

Marwan 09-14-2007 04:12 PM

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Saw Deliver us from Evil a few days ago, not bad, worth a watch.

Anycall 09-15-2007 04:20 AM

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watched A State of Mind last night. it follows 2 north korean girl gymnasts and their families for about 1year, finishing off with pyongyang mass games. mass game scenes are spectacular. very interesting to have a peek inside the hermit kingdom.

kyleb 09-15-2007 04:45 AM

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The Show on MOJO is an interesting series about minor league ballplayers trying to make it to the Diamondbacks.

suzzer99 09-21-2007 02:03 PM

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Very positive review of Ken Burns' - The War. I tivoed this not sure what to expect as I feel like I've already seen lots of exhaustive documentaries on WWII. But after this review I'm getting excited.

"One motivation was learning that more than 1,000 veterans die every day. A real storyteller can't hide from what those losses mean to documenting history. But all that matters is that he did make "The War." Because as it unfolds starting Sunday - roughly seven years in the making and 15 hours long - there is little doubt that this is Burns' masterpiece."


As an aside, whenever I meet a WWII vet, which isn't that often, I always try to say something like "thank you for the sacrifices your generation made for my generation". It might seem a little cheesy, but I think it means more to them than we can imagine.

I had a guy sitting to me on a plane get a little choked up when I thanked him. He was with a bunch of "hump pilots" coming back from a reunion in China. Basically they flew prop planes over the Himalayas from Nepal and India to resupply troops fighting in China. It was an incredibly dangerous job. Puts commercial airline discomfort in perspective.

mrkilla 09-25-2007 10:21 AM

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Suz
I DVR'd "The War". Ken Burns usually does an excellent job and his Documentary "The Civil War" is regarded as one the gold standard and one of my favorites (I've already posted about it in this thread) I am excited to see it hopefully some time this week.

Bartman387 09-25-2007 04:51 PM

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Awesome thread, but there has been a couple notable exclusions.

The Aristocrats
This is a documentary about a joke. It is a joke only told by comedians to other comedians. One of the most crude, disgusting and entertaining films you will ever see. Especially funny is the telling of the joke by Billly The Mime.

Not quite a doc, and not a mockumentary, I guess a faux-doc:
C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America
A faux doc made in the Ken Burns style of the history of America had the Confederacy won. It's an interesting idea, has humor, and can be intriguing and though provoking. However it is not quite as convincing as I wanted, and can be a bit over the top in showing how different things would be.

In the same vein:

Death of a President
Another faux doc, which details the events leading up to and following President Bush's assasination. It is a very even handed telling of this possibility, and in doing so stays very neutral (no anti-war, anti-GOP message or slant).

BAK 09-25-2007 05:53 PM

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One interesting documentary that I didn't see mentioned is "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised". This documentary was on my Netfix list for years, but it was never released in the USA on DvD. It had a release date set at one point but the company that was releasing it ended up cancelling the release. It is now available on the internet for free.

It is the story of the coup that ousted Chavez from power in 2002. This is the Wikipedia entry for it:

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (a.k.a. Chavez: Inside the Coup) is a 2002 documentary about the April 2002 Venezuelan coup attempt which briefly deposed Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez. A television crew from Ireland's Radio Telifís Éireann happened to be recording a documentary about Chávez during the events of April 11, 2002. Shifting focus, they followed the events as they occurred. During their filming, the crew recorded images of the events that they say contradict explanations given by Chávez opposition, the private media, the US State Department, and then White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer. The documentary says that the coup was the result of a conspiracy between various old guard and anti-Chávez factions within Venezuela and the United States.

daveymck 10-01-2007 04:33 PM

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Paradise Lost
Berlinger and Sinofsky's documentary of a gruesome triple murder in West Memphis, Arkansas and the subsequent trials of three suspects, takes a hard look at both the occult and the American justice system in 'small-town' America. Three teenagers are accused of this horrific crime of killing three children, supposedly as a result of involvement in Satanism. As in their previous documentary, things turn out to be more complex than initial appearances and this film presents the real-life courtroom drama to the viewer, as it unfolds.

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I'd like to reiterate how good this was. I would be surprised if anyone could watch this and not come away thinking that the kids convicted of murder aren't innocent.

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just watched this and am not sure where i land...the only person in the whole ordeal who seemed capable of something so gruesome was the stepfather john mark byers (wow, what a freak). the kids seemed odd, but when you look at the parents of these kids i suppose they are more 'normal' then we suspect. as usual, the incompetence of the PD in these large cases is revealed and usually prevents the actual truth from coming out.

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I've just watch both films, trouble is particularly the second one is that it doesnt seem even handed, the filmakers have decided they are innocent and its the step dad who performed the murders and seem to press this home at each opportunity.

The stepdad does seem totally weird and him turning up at every outside court interview is bizarre, but as he was paid by the filmakers how much you can really read into it is so hard to tell. From that point of view if he wasnt told to be there by the makers then it is a bit eerie and like the Soham murders in the UK, but I suspect they told him where and when to turn up.

FWIW I think its pretty clear they didnt do it and supposedly dna evidence released the last few months shows none of their dna was at the scene. Plus there was no rapes etc which puts the confession totally in perspective, seeing your mates raping little boys isnt somthing you would become confused about.

daveymck 10-01-2007 04:51 PM

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I watched The Grounded Truth the other week, quite a disturbing documentary with interviews with Iraq war veterans. Some of the stories and tactics they describe are terrible.

Again though I felt it was a touch inbalanced, think should have had some soliders who had more positive things to say and maybe some interviews with Iraqis.

Mr_Pathetic 10-02-2007 11:24 AM

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Did a quick search through thread for "Street Thief" and did not find it so I would like to add it. Very good film about a guy who breaks in places for a living. Highly recommend it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0872224/

Ron Burgundy 10-02-2007 02:10 PM

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I saw Street Thief a few months ago. Pretty cool how easy it is to break into most buildings.

Irish Mafia 10-07-2007 05:28 PM

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JESUS CAMP!

nutsflopper 10-07-2007 10:53 PM

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different kind of dog show

mephisto 10-08-2007 01:30 AM

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Okay, read the entire thread. I just saw this one today and it's ground breaking.

LIFE AND DEBT
In 1962, Jamaica won its independence from the United Kingdom, and the island nation, which had long struggled with poverty, attempted to use its agricultural resources in order to create a sound economic base. As Jamaica's financial problems grew more severe with time, prime minister Michael Manley struck a deal in 1977 with a consortium of economic institutions through the International Monetary Fund, who would loan money to the nation in exchange for removal of trade restrictions and subsidized exports. Twenty-five years later, most Jamaicans would agree that the deal drove a stake through the island's agricultural and industrial economy; imports from America have ruined the island's dairy industry, interference from growers and merchants in the United States and Latin America have effectively ended the growing of onions, bananas, carrots, and potatoes as cash crops, the value of the Jamaican dollar has plummeted, and the island is now seven billion dollars in debt to the IMF, with interest driving that figure higher each day. Filmmaker Stephanie Black examines the sad state of Jamaica's economy in the face of "free trade" in the global economy in the documentary Life + Debt, which includes interviews with Michael Manley and IMF director Stanley Fischer; the Jamaica Kincaid novel A Small Place provides some of the text for the film's narration. ~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide.

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Not to toot my own horn but...I have a masters degree in international relations which specializes in global finance and international trade and this is the first documentary I've seen that legitimately points to the weaknesses of the global trading system without disolving into an anti-capitalism rant.

A very powerful documentary which showcases a country desperately trying to become successful in the globalized world and not succeeding. I highly recommend this film.

MarkD 10-22-2007 03:21 AM

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Zeitgesit - The Movie
I just finished this and found it pretty powerful and presents some interesting arguments. Definite conspiracy theory theme, but well done and extremely interesting.


The Corporation - Part 1
The Corporation - Part 2
Watched this recently and liked it a lot. It's Canadian made and obviously about corporations. Under law a corporation is a person and this documentary explores what that means. Some interesting case studies in it about corporations like Movado.

fleece_me 10-26-2007 03:40 AM

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Wanted to briefly echo the earlier comments on The Street Thief. Suspenseful with a truly surprise ending. Highly recommend it enough and left me wanting more. All the standard descriptive cliches apply.

I am not sure it is a true documentary or not but worth watching. I think it's on A&E this month.

ChipWrecked 10-26-2007 10:34 AM

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I watched I Like Killing Flies on the Netflix site the other night.

It follows Shopsin's restaurant in Greenwich Village in 2004 during its relocation to a new site.

It's really a character study of the patriarch of the Shopsin family, Kenny. A true, true, New Yorker.

I definitely want to eat at this place if I ever get to NY.

I won't come as part of a party of five, however.

AKoffsuit 10-26-2007 04:15 PM

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I plan to watch the story of India

Event Duality 10-26-2007 06:56 PM

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Ken Burns' "The War" on PBS has been great so far.

Ron Burgundy 10-26-2007 07:31 PM

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The Corporation is one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. It's just anti-capitalist fluff. A bunch of random scary music, qoutes taken out of context, and poorly constructed arguments about why every corporation is evil. In almost every example they give, you can make a much better case for placing the blame on fascist/corporatist governments than the corporations they're trying to vilify.

The qoute from Michael Moore at the very end is just priceless for it's hilarious logical fallacies and contradictions.

Cracka Lacka 10-26-2007 08:32 PM

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Choke

The documentary on Rickson Gracie and Graciejj.

You can get it on youtube.

Good stuff if you're into mma.

jester710 10-27-2007 06:10 AM

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I watched Searching for the Wrong-Eyed Jesus the other day and really enjoyed it. Nothing too profound or Earth-shattering, it's just a look at the South and some of the folk/bluegrass/alternative country music that is born there. I'd recommend it, especially if you're at all into that kind of music.

deaders 10-28-2007 06:58 AM

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A few of these have been mentioned already:

Dark Days: About homeless people living underground in abandoned subway stations. What makes it stand out is the film-maker really following the lives of some of these guys and apparently even living down there for some time after becoming homeless himself. It really gives you a look at homeless people as actual people with their own story and problems that led them to be in the situation they are now trapped in.

A Century Of Self: This is a series, done by the BBC I think, I cant recommend this enough. Basically it details the initial use of Freudian psychology in marketing, and how that has developed into the self-obsessed consumer society that we (in most countries at least) are living in right now.

War Photographer: About famed photographer Jim Nachtwey. Extremely powerful documentary that takes you behind the scenes of many of his famous photographs. I found it particularly interesting for the discussion it raises about the role of the media - impartial viewing vs active participation - how that affects his work and larger implications.

Danastasio1 10-28-2007 07:42 PM

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The Corporation is one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. It's just anti-capitalist fluff. A bunch of random scary music, qoutes taken out of context, and poorly constructed arguments about why every corporation is evil. In almost every example they give, you can make a much better case for placing the blame on fascist/corporatist governments than the corporations they're trying to vilify.

The qoute from Michael Moore at the very end is just priceless for it's hilarious logical fallacies and contradictions.

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Platonic 10-28-2007 09:57 PM

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This hasn't been mentioned as far as I can tell, I payed attention to most of the posts...

Planet Earth, the Discovery channel's documentary on wildlife. They edited thousands of hours of filming over several years to collect the entire series. Totally awesome.

Ron Burgundy 11-02-2007 03:02 AM

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I just saw Run Granny Run on HBO last night. It's about a 94 yr old woman who ran for senate in New Hampshire. She ended up getting like 34% of the votes.

Pete H 11-02-2007 04:10 AM

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This hasn't been mentioned as far as I can tell, I payed attention to most of the posts...

Planet Earth, the Discovery channel's documentary on wildlife. They edited thousands of hours of filming over several years to collect the entire series. Totally awesome.

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Should've paid more attention. Yeti mentioned it ages ago.

I believe they (Discovery channel) only gave some money to the amazing BBC guys who did the actual work.

Besides the Discovery version has reportedly been cut/edited for commercials and it has Sigourney Weaver (blasphemy!) as narrator instead of David "the god himself" Attenborough.

MarkD 11-05-2007 06:54 PM

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The Corporation is one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. It's just anti-capitalist fluff. A bunch of random scary music, qoutes taken out of context, and poorly constructed arguments about why every corporation is evil. In almost every example they give, you can make a much better case for placing the blame on fascist/corporatist governments than the corporations they're trying to vilify.

The qoute from Michael Moore at the very end is just priceless for it's hilarious logical fallacies and contradictions.

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Care to expand on this in any way? I just don't see it at all. How do you place the blame on government for the monsanto example?

Also, what fascist government are you trying to place the blame on? The US government?

Google video is not co-operating at this moment but I don't see the logical fallacies or contradictions of micheal moore's statement at the end. Care to explain it to me?

BretWeir 11-05-2007 07:02 PM

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I saw New York Doll on cable a couple of weeks ago, and would recommend it. It's about New York Dolls bassist Arthur "Killer" Kane, his struggle with drugs and alcohol, and his conversion to Mormonism.

Whenever a movie combines punk rock and Mormonism, hilarity is sure to ensure, and this one doesn't disappoint. The climax of the movie is a Dolls reunion concern (featuring David Johansen, aka Buster Poindexter) where Kane wears a glammed-out costume supposedly inspired by Joseph Smith.

For all the laughs, though, the movie is pretty inspiring, and the ending is both unexpected and touching.

HoldingFolding 11-06-2007 09:40 AM

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Here is a link of good (free) onine documentaries covering several subjects:

http://best.online.docus.googlepages.com/



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Another vote for this site. I highly recommend 'The Ascent of Man' & 'The Century of the Self'

Ron Burgundy 11-12-2007 04:04 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
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The Corporation is one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. It's just anti-capitalist fluff. A bunch of random scary music, qoutes taken out of context, and poorly constructed arguments about why every corporation is evil. In almost every example they give, you can make a much better case for placing the blame on fascist/corporatist governments than the corporations they're trying to vilify.

The qoute from Michael Moore at the very end is just priceless for it's hilarious logical fallacies and contradictions.

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Care to expand on this in any way? I just don't see it at all. How do you place the blame on government for the monsanto example?

Also, what fascist government are you trying to place the blame on? The US government?

Google video is not co-operating at this moment but I don't see the logical fallacies or contradictions of micheal moore's statement at the end. Care to explain it to me?

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I'd be happy to explain my thoughts on this, but it would likely cause a major thread hijack. Let's start a new thread or PM.

KissANDCatch 11-12-2007 05:49 PM

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"The Origin of AIDS" is very good/interesting. It's only a theory as to where AIDS started, but seems to be very likely.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...08240067690637

vanwely 11-12-2007 06:17 PM

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The True Story of Killing Pablo

Not to be confused with the upcoming film, this documentary is truly fascinating.

A Jail in Colombia -

A look inside the La Modelo prison in Bogota. Colombia. Called a "model" prison by Colombia officials the prison in reality is controlled more by the prisoners than the guards. With 5000 prisoners for 2400 spots, and not more than 150 security guards assigned to the prison. The prison is awash in violence, and drugs. Last year, 162 prisoners were killed there. The prison is controlled by three criminal groups: members of the guerrilla movement, paramilitary forces, and cocaine traffickers. They have broken the prison up into three different territories and each group has it's own security forces, defending it's own territory.

This was incredible and actually caused the prison to be closed by President Uribe.



Jail Documetaries - There seems to be one or more of these on every night and I never get tired of watching them.
Hour long documentaries of different prisons in the US.

odellthurman 11-14-2007 03:42 PM

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Nominated for an Oscar in 2006, Street Fight is one of the most gripping political documentaries I have ever seen. It tells the story of a young, black, Rhodes Scholar, Cory Booker, challenging longtime Newark, NJ mayor Sharpe James in 2002.

This is old-time machine politics at its best/worst. If you are interested in politics, you should check it out. It was just released on DVD and is available on netflix.

BretWeir 11-14-2007 04:30 PM

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Nominated for an Oscar in 2006, Street Fight is one of the most gripping political documentaries I have ever seen. It tells the story of a young, black, Rhodes Scholar, Cory Booker, challenging longtime Newark, NJ mayor Sharpe James in 2002.

This is old-time machine politics at its best/worst. If you are interested in politics, you should check it out. It was just released on DVD and is available on netflix.

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Second this one. I used to live in Newark and still follow the politics and, while some of the stuff in this movie may seem over the top, it's absolutely true.

Interesting fact: until Cory Booker, every Newark mayor streching back to 1962 has been indicted on federal corruption charges.

Great film.

batair 11-22-2007 02:32 AM

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The Day The Universe Changed- by James Burke


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj9OB...eature=related


I love all his documentaries, but this one helped open up my mind when i was young and dumb.


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