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Wynton 09-20-2007 12:42 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
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.376/.434/.722 home
.303/.370/.497 away

Coors Field for MVP.

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Maybe we should look at nothing but away stats. Does anyone know who has the best stats in purely that respect?

Jack of Arcades 09-20-2007 12:45 PM

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Maybe we should look at nothing but away stats.

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Park adjusted stats are much better than just looking at away stats.

Wynton 09-20-2007 12:50 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
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Park adjusted stats are much better than just looking at away stats.

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I didn't even know those existed. Is there one resource online where they are easily found?

THAY3R 09-20-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
You've never heard of OPS+?

Jack of Arcades 09-20-2007 12:56 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
Baseball-Reference.com has Matt Holliday with a 148 OPS+. OPS+ is a bit complicated, but just know that 100 is average and 148 is about 24% better than average.

Chipper has a 167 OPS+ which means he's about 33% above average.

A-Rod is at 181, which is just a shade below Barry Bonds' career mark of 182 (just to give you an example of what the numbers mean).

JD Drew is at 99.

Wynton 09-20-2007 01:08 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
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You've never heard of OPS+?

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Nope. I'm old and oblivious, I guess.

Let me ask this: does anyone have a sense of whether those who actually cast MVP votes even pay attention to the stats, aside from the traditional ones that appear in the newspapers?

THAY3R 09-20-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
MVP voters look at RBI and team Win Loss record. And most importantly, hype.

SL__72 09-20-2007 01:16 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
HRs are important too!

prohornblower 09-20-2007 01:47 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
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A-Rod is at 181, which is just a shade below Barry Bonds' career mark of 182.

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That is why NY needs to get RID OF THAT BUM GAYROD!!! Cashman is paying him almost 80% of what he's paying Derek Goder and he's not even the best player ever! Scott Brosius was a True Yankee.

JordanIB 09-20-2007 02:27 PM

Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP
 
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MVP voters look at RBI and team Win Loss record. And most importantly, hype.

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