Re: ***August Low-Content Thread***
 

Im the donk that won with quads...you datamining me Dave?

Re: ***August Low-Content Thread***
 

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another observed hand, does this make sense to anyone else???

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $385.70
UTG+1: $288.25
MP1: $898.75
MP2: $1513.25
CO: $898.60
Button: $293.15
SB: $923.05
BB: $342.50

Pre-flop: (8 players)
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $35</font>, 3 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($85, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $85</font>, Button calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($255, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 is all-in $168.25</font>, Button calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($591.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $591.5)


Results:
Final pot: $591.5
<font color="#ffffff">Button showed As Jc 8h Qs</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 showed 2d Js Qh Tc</font>

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Now that you mention it, I've never see the Ace of Clubs come on three consecutive streets.

Re: ***August Low-Content Thread***
 

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Im the donk that won with quads...you datamining me Dave?

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incorrect, you are not in the hand, nor at the table for this one.

Re: ***August Low-Content Thread***
 

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Now that you mention it, I've never see the Ace of Clubs come on three consecutive streets.

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converter seems to be working really well.

raw hand history:

Full Tilt Poker Game #3257515472: Table Jewel Springs - $5/$10 - No
Limit Omaha H/L - 2:03:39 ET - 2007/08/15
Seat 1: sleaterx ($1,513.25)
Seat 2: Kingfisher8 ($898.60)
Seat 3: MeatballGrinder ($293.15)
Seat 4: fortax ($923.05)
Seat 5: gamefreak237 ($342.50)
Seat 6: cashnotax ($385.70)
Seat 7: Tommy 2 Toe ($288.25)
Seat 8: GASSS_U ($898.75)
fortax posts the small blind of $5
gamefreak237 posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
cashnotax folds
cashnotax stands up
Tommy 2 Toe raises to $35
GASSS_U has 15 seconds left to act
GASSS_U folds
sleaterx folds
Kingfisher8 has 15 seconds left to act
Kingfisher8 is sitting out
Kingfisher8 has timed out
Kingfisher8 folds
Kingfisher8 has returned
MeatballGrinder calls $35
fortax has 15 seconds left to act
fortax folds
gamefreak237 folds
*** FLOP *** [2h Ac Ks]
Tommy 2 Toe bets $85
MeatballGrinder has 15 seconds left to act
MeatballGrinder calls $85
*** TURN *** [2h Ac Ks] [8s]
Tommy 2 Toe has 15 seconds left to act
Tommy 2 Toe bets $168.25, and is all in
MeatballGrinder calls $168.25
Tommy 2 Toe shows [2d Js Qh Tc]
MeatballGrinder shows [As Jc 8h Qs]
*** RIVER *** [2h Ac Ks 8s] [Ad]
Tommy 2 Toe shows two pair, Aces and Twos, for high
MeatballGrinder shows a full house, Aces full of Eights, for high
MeatballGrinder wins the pot ($588.50) with a full house, Aces full of Eights
Tommy 2 Toe is sitting out
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $591.50 | Rake $3
Board: [2h Ac Ks 8s Ad]
Seat 1: sleaterx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Kingfisher8 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: MeatballGrinder (button) showed [As Jc 8h Qs] and won
($588.50) with HI: a full house, Aces full of Eights
Seat 4: fortax (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: gamefreak237 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: cashnotax didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Tommy 2 Toe showed [2d Js Qh Tc] and lost with HI: two pair,
Aces and Twos
Seat 8: GASSS_U didn't bet (folded)

FT Sweat PLO8
 

search for 'franknagaijr' on stars right now if you've got too much time on your hands.

Edit- Came in 3rd in a field of 439. Has anybody ever played with 'jaliks' before? His preflop selection and his postflop calling selection screamed donk, and yet he was the chip leader of the final two.

Re: FT Sweat PLO8
 

I love these guys, straight and a terrible low on a paired and flushed board.

PokerStars Game #11565224324: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/08/18 - 23:45:47 (ET)
Table 'Hesperia II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: B_R_N_4 ($66.20 in chips)
Seat 3: PaulLem47 ($93.80 in chips)
Seat 4: nvrforgetlol ($56.55 in chips)
Seat 5: SKIDDY25 ($6.25 in chips)
Seat 6: splendid101 ($12.60 in chips)
splendid101: posts small blind $0.25
B_R_N_4: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nvrforgetlol [2d 9s As 3s]
PaulLem47: folds
nvrforgetlol: raises $1.25 to $1.75
SKIDDY25: calls $1.75
splendid101: calls $1.50
B_R_N_4: calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [Qs 5s 8c]
splendid101: checks
B_R_N_4: checks
nvrforgetlol: bets $3.50
SKIDDY25: folds
splendid101: calls $3.50
B_R_N_4: folds
*** TURN *** [Qs 5s 8c] [4s]
splendid101: bets $7.35 and is all-in
nvrforgetlol: calls $7.35
*** RIVER *** [Qs 5s 8c 4s] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
splendid101: shows [Ah 6c 7c 7s] (HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 8,6,5,4,A)
nvrforgetlol: shows [2d 9s As 3s] (HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,5,4,2,A)
nvrforgetlol collected $13.65 from pot
nvrforgetlol collected $13.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28.70 | Rake $1.40
Board [Qs 5s 8c 4s Qd]
Seat 1: B_R_N_4 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: PaulLem47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: nvrforgetlol showed [2d 9s As 3s] and won ($27.30) with HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,5,4,2,A
Seat 5: SKIDDY25 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: splendid101 (small blind) showed [Ah 6c 7c 7s] and lost with HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 8,6,5,4,A

Re: low content
 

WCOOP qualifier dominance (world championship of online poker)

i love when people think dry kings are a good hand in o8.

*converter is not working right now, sorry.

PokerStars Game #11469851312: Tournament #57939546, 700FPP Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/08/13 - 16:55:40 (ET)
Table '57939546 6' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: lllothup (5530 in chips)
Seat 2: Votex (4263 in chips)
Seat 3: novello (1903 in chips)
Seat 4: davebreal (31245 in chips)
Seat 5: SPA1 (2782 in chips)
Seat 6: shooter53 (2119 in chips)
Seat 7: VanZant212 (12789 in chips)
Seat 8: AANYCAARDS (4226 in chips)
shooter53: posts small blind 300
VanZant212: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to davebreal [5s 3c Ad 2d]
AANYCAARDS: folds
lllothup: folds
Votex: folds
novello: folds
davebreal: raises 1500 to 2100
SPA1: raises 682 to 2782 and is all-in
shooter53: folds
VanZant212: folds
davebreal: calls 682
*** FLOP *** [6h 3s 2s]
*** TURN *** [6h 3s 2s] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [6h 3s 2s 2h] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
davebreal: shows [5s 3c Ad 2d] (HI: four of a kind, Deuces; LO: 6,5,3,2,A)
SPA1: shows [7s Kc Ks 7h] (HI: a full house, Deuces full of Kings)
davebreal collected 3232 from pot
davebreal collected 3232 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6464 | Rake 0
Board [6h 3s 2s 2h 2c]
Seat 1: lllothup folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Votex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: novello folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: davebreal showed [5s 3c Ad 2d] and won (6464) with HI: four of a kind, Deuces; LO: 6,5,3,2,A
Seat 5: SPA1 (button) showed [7s Kc Ks 7h] and lost with HI: a full house, Deuces full of Kings
Seat 6: shooter53 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: VanZant212 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: AANYCAARDS folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Re: low content
 

What hand can he have here? Note he has approx 1 BB left:

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Limit: $30/$60
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1166.50
Button: $250.50
SB: $1669
Donger: $1403

Pre-flop: (4 players) Donger is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Button calls, SB calls, Donger checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Donger bets</font>, UTG folds, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Donger bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Donger 3-bets</font>, Button folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Donger.

Results:
Final pot: 7BB

Re: ***August Low-Content Thread***
 

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Would I be wrong to say that these guys couldn't care less about a $3/6 game and are just there to fulfill their contractual obligations and gamble it up?

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my opinions based on online play, hearsay, and televised broadcasts:

Greg Raymer's strongest games are tournaments (obviously) and limit cash games such as HORSE. Personally, I'm dubious of his big-bet expertise.

Joe Hachem's strongest games are NLHE and tournaments, he plays PLO8 like a NLHE player would and probably misses many nuances of O8 in general.

Do they care about winning or losing when they play online? Raymer talks about bad beats and outdraws while he is playing, so he seems to be playing intently. They both also seem to tilt when they lose online, which I think is some indication of caring.

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Don't forget I reckon both are on at $500,000 a year sponsorship deals. They don't care about donking some chips off contractually.
Stars were willing to pay this years WSOP winner $1,000,000

Re: ***August Low-Content Thread***
 

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Don't forget I reckon both are on at $500,000 a year sponsorship deals. They don't care about donking some chips off contractually.
Stars were willing to pay this years WSOP winner $1,000,000

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I'd be curious to see what their contracts and salaries actually entail, as well as most other sponsored pros.

Moneymaker is still working for Stars in 2007, but is his image still worth $500,000/year?