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tourney guy 06-24-2007 01:37 PM

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NO, it is exactly the opposite of nitty. I am not a whiny biatch like you, and put the responsibiulity to win the pot on me, not the dealer.

The fact the you think it is nitty to NOT blame the dealer is really laughable.

MitchL 06-24-2007 01:48 PM

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NO, it is exactly the opposite of nitty. I am not a whiny biatch like you, and put the responsibiulity to win the pot on me, not the dealer.

The fact the you think it is nitty to NOT blame the dealer is really laughable.

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Think it has more to do w/ your blind adherence to a rule that should have no applicability in this situation and in many situations where it has been incrorrectly been applied actually encourages dealer incompetence at the expense of a paying customer.

MicroBob 06-24-2007 02:14 PM

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tourney guy - Wow.

SmokeyRidesAgain 06-24-2007 02:36 PM

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Dude where's my cards

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Lol!

HOWMANY 06-24-2007 06:25 PM

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I've read too many of the responses already and just wanted to say that if you disagree with OP/think dealer was in the right you may be severely retarded.

pfapfap 06-24-2007 07:53 PM

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Let me be clear that I think the dealer was in the wrong. As a dealer, I would never do this. I also suspect the OP radiates some douche-ish qualities, and think there may be different takes on what happened if you ask others at the table. But whatever, dealer was wrong, no question.

That said...

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Think it has more to do w/ your blind adherence to a rule that should have no applicability in this situation

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I'm with tourney guy that it's up to you to protect your hand. That's not a "rule" that's common sense. I can cross the street at a properly designated sidewalk all I want, but good luck screaming that the cars were supposed to stop if I'm the one that didn't look both ways first. I'm in the right, but I'm still up sh't creek.

What was that Lebowski line again...? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

At the end of the day, regardless of "right" or "wrong" or "big huge fuzzy gray area", you can only control your own actions. The better you are about protecting your hand, the fewer of these problems you'll have, the more hands you'll have to play, the less pissy you'll be. +EV all around.

But as I've said, don't worry, we won't have dealers soon enough, you can go about pressing touch-screens all day long.

Bulldog 06-25-2007 09:00 AM

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so this week i come into room and get listed for the 30 game. they are running a 15/30 must move so i decide to sit and wait. i buy a rack and as i approach seat i notice its about to be my BB. dealer asks if i want it and i say yeah and grab 3 chips out my rack and place em. so i carry this messenger type bag that carries my ipod, notebook, chloroform and gum etc...anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips (i am in like 5 seat) which i despise anyways but im like whatever and grab my ipod from bag and proceed to sit down. i then hang my bag on the chair (for some reason looking away from table for a moment..perhaps saying hi to regular) and sit down only to see i dont have any cards anymore (i didnt see him muck them or i would have stopped him). (only UTG had acted to this point) im like "dude where are my cards" hes like "you need to protect them, i mucked them". i say "are you an idiot? why would you muck my hand after one person has acted?" hes like "protect your hand rule #1" im like "i understand, why act like an idiot and not just push my cards behind my 3 chips" he says "protect your hand sir, its your fault". im like "well action goes from left to right, why would you even reach for my cards?" "protect your hand sir"

so i call the floor because well they love me there and i was about to break this guys face. plus the doucheclump next to me with aviators on is saying i am wrong. the floor doesnt really issue a 'ruling' but instead go to the cage and grab 3 chips for me and continue the hand. must be some petty cash thing.

anyways i am telling beau this last night (awesome dealer) and hes like well he didn't break any rules, but yeah whoever the dealer was acted in a very awful manner.

thoughts?

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I want to make sure I get this. You sit down to play, post your big blind, get dealt in, and do not watch your cards........is that correct??????

The dealer wants to move the game along, WHICH IS HIS REAL JOB, you are not paying attention, and he is supposed to hold up the game for you????

Sounds to me like you were not ready to play when it was your turn, you cards were just laying there, and the dealer killed them.

I bet you began to start paying attention after that, didn't you?

Typical from the LV player - take no responsibility for your own hand.

"Anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips"

This is the best - in other words, you are too lazy to PULL THE CARD BEHIND THE BLIND YOURSELF TO PROTECT YOUR OWN HAND!!!!!!


Seems to me you got what you deserved, and you better protect your hand when you play cards.

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you're a moron.

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Yeah, it's a shame the OOT "*" system hasn't been adopted across all forums.

psandman 06-25-2007 09:45 AM

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You might be the only dealer I have ever heard claim that they have never mistakenly mucked cards.

pfapfap 06-25-2007 11:07 AM

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Oh, I've accidentally mucked, sure. I'm saying I wouldn't muck the BB of a player just sitting down in the 5 seat while action is on UTG. I don't think I've ever done that.

Cactus Jack 06-25-2007 11:28 AM

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Oh, I've accidentally mucked, sure. I'm saying I wouldn't muck the BB of a player just sitting down in the 5 seat while action is on UTG. I don't think I've ever done that.

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You just haven't found the right circumstance yet. Hang in there. You'll get your chance. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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