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DWarrior 06-26-2006 04:57 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
My biggest problem is putting people on a range in short handed nl.

Conventional book wisdom assumes the opponent is semi-competent and won't call you down with an underpair or raise with mid pair for value.

I'm coming over from full ring, where TPGK is not a monster and you're basically looking for a showdown, whereas short handed it seems like I'm leaving a ton of value playing this way.

Ratamahatta 06-26-2006 04:59 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
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1) Poker Tracker and Poker Ace Heads up display. You can make a deal with the makers of those two and bundle them on a CD with the book (or a least a link to the free download of the trial versions). Make a chapter on set up, auto-rating rules, and winning styles of play. TAG with the green bag of money is OK. LAG can be ok, but there are down sides - a lot of them. Rocks can make money. Etc. In fact, given a 100K sample size of hands played by winning players with various styles, you could spend a chapter looking at each player's statistics, hand histories, and show "hand reading" examples at how different styles of winning players approach different scenarios - and quantifiably show how at the end of 100K hands that style was +BB/100 hands. There is a real opportunity to focus on on-line play with tools impossible for live-players to use. On the other hand, the concepts learned from such an excercise, including the hand reading examples, would be applicable "live" once you are able to get a read on your opponents as rocks, or LAGs or whatever.

BTW, you could also bundle a 2+2 style hand converter for hand histories with instructions on how to use it and how to make good posts to these forums.


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I don't like this one. I don't want to ses donks using PT. And besides, who said that it's going to be a book about online poker?

Grunch 06-26-2006 05:07 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
I dont like it either. I don't like the iidea of seeing the book spend any time on software or other issues that aren't poker related. Those pages could tell me what to do on thje flopped trips hand instead. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

poincaraux 06-26-2006 05:13 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
I play almost exclusively 6-max, as do a lot of folks on this forum. Any chance that 6-max could be the focus, rather than an addendum?

Also, obvious things like:

- hand reading (with *LOTS* of examples .. maybe quizes)
- understanding commitment
- careful notes about "this works well at SSNL but sucks at HSNL and here's why" and vice versa
- detailed explaination of shifting gears (how much, for how long, with examples)
- practical techniques for minimizing tilt

etc.

I love yad's idea about "it depends" situations.

There are lots of EV calcs that can only be done away from the tables. Examples of these that explain how to calculate various things, and what sorts of things are worth calculating, would be nice.

Maulik 06-26-2006 05:15 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
coltrane,

What games do you play?

Jouster777 06-26-2006 05:32 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
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wow, really good suggestions so far, guys......keep'em coming!....

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In return, can we get the authors to commit now to looking in on and commenting on the post-publishing review sessions that take place on this board?...it will at least ensure that everyone here buys it

Matt Flynn 06-26-2006 05:52 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
These responses are excellent. Keep 'em coming....

Matt Flynn 06-26-2006 05:57 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
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wow, really good suggestions so far, guys......keep'em coming!....

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In return, can we get the authors to commit now to looking in on and commenting on the post-publishing review sessions that take place on this board?...it will at least ensure that everyone here buys it

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Be glad to!

Echelon 06-26-2006 06:10 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
shorthanded play

Albert Moulton 06-26-2006 06:10 PM

Re: What would you like to see covered in the upcoming SSNL book?
 
I guess what I'm driving at is that a statement like,

".10/.50 NL $50 max, Villain UTG ($55.25) is 12/3/8.0 over 850 hands, Hero on Button ($35.45) has TAG image at table, about 20/12/5 for 4 orbits..."

contains HUGE amounts of information in the least possible amount of space. It's short-hand that only makes sense in the context of PT-stats. Plus, SSNL really isn't profitable anywhere but on-line. Try playing 100K hands of .1/.25 NL at a brick and mortar casino this year and see what I'm talking about. SSNL is really just for home games to have fun, and on-line to make money. So, why hide PT and HUD? You can certainly do well without that kind of tool - but you'd do better if (1) you had it, and (2) you know how to use it.


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