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DustinG 08-06-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

not fish guys wtf

lynch clown please

theSmell 08-06-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
[0] bojtun voted for fishmonger
<font color="red"> [3] clowntable voted for fishmonger </font>
[0] DustinG voted for clowntable
<font color="red"> [3] fishmonger voted for clowntable </font>
[0] fmxda
[0] fnord_too voted for clowntable
[1] lastchance voted for fishmonger
[0] ScottHoward v3.1 voted for lastchance
[0] Supine

<font color="green"> 10:00 No good </font>
Majority Lynch = 5

clowntable 08-06-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
I don't care as long as it's not me. You are all equally wolfy

DustinG 08-06-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
fish has a bunch of non-wolfy posts wtf

lastchance 08-06-2007 09:59 PM

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I don't care as long as it's not me. You are all equally wolfy

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This is utter BS and really villagery.

clowntable 08-06-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
All his posts are clownclownclown, he's not even around. We don't need him in must lynch

Supine 08-06-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
lol turbo.

theSmell 08-06-2007 09:59 PM

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30 secs

lastchance 08-06-2007 09:59 PM

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fish has a bunch of non-wolfy posts wtf

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Clown is village. I think.

Yes, I'd love to go scott here.

bojtun 08-06-2007 09:59 PM

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Supine vote!

Supine 08-06-2007 10:00 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
I abstain.

clowntable 08-06-2007 10:00 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
WTF lololol

theSmell 08-06-2007 10:01 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
NIGHT!!

[0] bojtun voted for fishmonger
<font color="red"> [3] clowntable voted for fishmonger </font>
[0] DustinG voted for clowntable
<font color="red"> [3] fishmonger voted for clowntable </font>
[0] fmxda
[0] fnord_too voted for clowntable
[0] lastchance voted for fishmonger
[0] ScottHoward v3.1
[0] Supine

<font color="green"> 10:00 No good </font>
Majority Lynch = 5


5 minutes for corrections, then I'm flipping.

theSmell 08-06-2007 10:06 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
Clown lost the flip.

Clown is dead.
Reveal shortly.

theSmell 08-06-2007 10:11 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
Things were starting to get out of hand. What could have been the experience of a lifetime is turning into a nightmare. True Harry Potters are dropping like flies, and here you are, seemingly helpless. You were certain you saw a pretty shifty look from clowntable, but it turned out he was just checking out 19 year-old co-ed dressed up like Hermione.
C'est la Vie.

Clowntable was a villager

Wolves, actions.

clowntable 08-06-2007 10:14 PM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
***Dead***
Thank god this nightmare is over, gl village
***Dead***

theSmell 08-07-2007 08:26 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
Things are starting to get out of hand. You begin to think if you should just get out while you can, and try to salvage the little dignity that remains. Then, when you see a young boy, Lastchance walking out of the store, hands buried in his face crying, with maniacal laughter in the background, you decide you have to stay and fight, to avenge those who have been lost.

Lastchance was a villager.

IT IS DAY

theSmell 08-07-2007 08:28 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
<font color="red"> [0] bojtun </font>
<font color="red"> [0] DustinG </font>
<font color="red"> [0] fishmonger </font>
<font color="red"> [0] fmxda </font>
<font color="red"> [0] fnord_too </font>
<font color="red"> [0] ScottHoward v3.1 </font>
<font color="red"> [0] Supine </font>

<font color="green"> 10:00 No good </font>
[b] Majority Lynch = 4

Fishmonger 08-07-2007 08:43 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
puke puke puke

wtf at voting me/leaving it to a flip

one or both of fmx and fnord have to be wolves

may not be able to post later, internet out at home

ScottHoward v3.1 08-07-2007 09:36 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
hey all
first off, sorry about last night and not getting my vote in. im sitting there drinking and reading and posting and my wife decides its time to start discussing wedding plans. wedding plans at 10pm on a monday night. then i get the "why are you ignoring me blah blah blah" and "you love that computer more than me" etc. i would have voted clown anyway, so its not that big a deal i guess.

now, clown being village isnt great of course, but i think it clears fish. the only thing out of fishs mouth pretty much all game has been “clowns a wolf”. surely if fish was a wolf, he would realize that eventually clown would get lynched, and at that point he wouldnt have any path forward. fish isnt a moran. if fish played this way as a wolf, he played horribly imo.

re lastchance:
the wolves went from a kill that made no sense, to a setup kill. i guarantee that anybody using that kill as a reason to vote me today is a wolf, especially if its any of the people who have been calling me villager all game. the wolves are running out of time. they don’t have enough kills to kill off everybodys top villagers. apparently they are trying to kill two birds with one stone now. dont fall for it.

ScottHoward v3.1 08-07-2007 09:45 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
i gotta split for a 10am meeting, should be back by 11ish
but i have a potentially shocking revelation which i dont have time to explain right now, so stay tuned.

DustinG 08-07-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
ok. I'm a villager and Bojtun is still a villager (he had better be)

and I'm going on faith that Fmx is a villager too.

That means all I need to do is figure out one more villager and then lynch the 3 remaining players and win.

fnord_too 08-07-2007 10:29 AM

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I abstain.

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This really bothers me. Please explain this supine.

DustinG 08-07-2007 10:31 AM

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so

two of scott/supine/fnord/fish

I can't figure out which of those to clear though

I'd like to clear Scott for D1. I'd like to clear Supine for some stuff- I'd like to clear them all for stuff

Supine 08-07-2007 10:37 AM

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I abstain.

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This really bothers me. Please explain this supine.

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I hated hated hated the ending of last day with three hours of nothing happening and then a sudden switch to fishmonger. I had no idea at all of f have fishmonger. Needing more time to think I opted for a coinflip. If forced to vote I would have gone clowntable so its nm.

DustinG 08-07-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
puke puke puke

wtf at voting me/leaving it to a flip

one or both of fmx and fnord have to be wolves

may not be able to post later, internet out at home

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Fish,

why are you narrowing it down to those two?

DustinG 08-07-2007 10:52 AM

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people should be trying to clear people and not find wolves today

if there is ever a time for process of elimination its today

who is the most likely villager from scott/supine/fnord/fish?

Fishmonger 08-07-2007 11:00 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
puke puke puke

wtf at voting me/leaving it to a flip

one or both of fmx and fnord have to be wolves

may not be able to post later, internet out at home

[/ QUOTE ]

Fish,

why are you narrowing it down to those two?

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Théy´re my best two, although supine did himself no favours yesterday. Pretty much never voting you or bojtun, leaning villager on scott because he´s being less forceful and manipulative than he is when he´s a wolf.

ScottHoward v3.1 08-07-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
ok im back
dustin, why did you say you wanted to vote for me last night? how did i go from unlynchable to suspect?

DustinG 08-07-2007 11:06 AM

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ok im back
dustin, why did you say you wanted to vote for me last night? how did i go from unlynchable to suspect?

[/ QUOTE ]

the argument that LC made that you weren't pushing people seems kind of good

ScottHoward v3.1 08-07-2007 11:10 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
ok im back
dustin, why did you say you wanted to vote for me last night? how did i go from unlynchable to suspect?

[/ QUOTE ]

the argument that LC made that you weren't pushing people seems kind of good

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do you think i pushed for eskimo?

DustinG 08-07-2007 11:13 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
did you?

fnord_too 08-07-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
Dustin, I don't think there are two wolves in your list. Maybe it is because your list is exactly who I have reread, and no one is really indicting themselves. Not considering myself, fish looks really clear with clown being clear. Supine, he just has had a lot of villager posts. Scott has looked like a villager all game.

I don't think you can clear fmx on lack of posting. botjun and you I need to reread if I get time.

There is just not enough to go on here. I keep trying to humor you and pull the most likely villager from the list, but I keep second guessing myself. For instance, I think Scott, he hasn't given off any of the wolf tells I have on him and has sounded like a villager all game, but then again, scott is a pretty competent player and he could maybe be doing this as a wolf. Supine, he has some posts that just scream villager, but then again, he hasn't had a ton of posts and it is hard to clear him just on what I have read. Fish, he would never go after villager clown so hard from day one as a wolf, would he?

That is level one, which I am defining as just their posts with the major interactions I can remember. Part of the problem is that the villager interactions just don't give a lot of insight, so when we lynch a villager we don't learn much. The other problem is that the wolves are under no pressure and can kill practically at random, so we don't learn much from the night kills, other than the wolves don't really care killing a strong lynch candidate. If we lynch a wolf today, we really need to look hard at day 1-3 or 4 interactions and less after that. Or maybe we need to look for posts that distance players from each other. Right now, if the wolf pair is doing anything concerted (which is a big if), it is to make themselves look like an impossible pair.

ScottHoward v3.1 08-07-2007 11:16 AM

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did you?

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thats what im asking you

DustinG 08-07-2007 11:27 AM

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Dustin, I don't think there are two wolves in your list.

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I'm having a hard time too.

But for there not be 2 wolves there it would mean one of Fmx or Bojtun is evil.

And I really really dont think Bojtun is.

And I'm not clearing Fmx for not posting, but for what happened on D1 and the fact that he was pushed by wolves a lot, and even more importantly, pushed by Kbar when Fmx had 1 post.

And there is also the fact that Luckay showed up and made himself look like crap trying to push an alternative wagon which would have been silly with Fmx as the fallback wagon.

So I think two of you/Scott/Supine/fish just have to be evil- regardless of what I've thought about them all game,

DustinG 08-07-2007 11:28 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
did you?

[/ QUOTE ]
thats what im asking you

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idk- I never reread that day.

ScottHoward v3.1 08-07-2007 11:31 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
did you?

[/ QUOTE ]
thats what im asking you

[/ QUOTE ]

idk- I never reread that day.

[/ QUOTE ]
good work

DustinG 08-07-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
the one person I'm not going to clear from those 4 is Supine

regardless of his posting, which looks good, his actions this game haven't been

showing up late D1 to vote Kenny
pushing Clown for days straight and then dropping him
voting GT1T D2 then showing up D3 and saying clown/shorty and voting clown even though gt1t was the lead wagon....

and some of the posts have felt wolfy but there have been a bunch of villagery sounding ones too

DustinG 08-07-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
should say "even though shorty was the lead wagon"

ScottHoward v3.1 08-07-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Average Speed XVII Game Thread
 
dustin, you think a wolf bothers to dig up that point about lastchance being on gts list?


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