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Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

apart from the obvious stuff, i only really hate your turn check in hand 3. still you lost the minimum, what's the problem?

Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

Thanks Boz for encouraging words.

Hand 3, meh, I think the check is ok. Loads of draws just got there, and I stop myself from being crai'ed. Also, there probably isn't 3 streets of value against Qx anyway. I suppose I do allow AdQd or Adxd to draw, but that's taking paranoia to a new level IMO. I also give villain the chance to bet/bluff worse on river and a value-minraise will get called a lot by 1p/2p hands.

Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

Brag: My biggest 50nl pot =P
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($42.85)
BB ($19.25)
UTG ($29.60)
MP ($223.20)
CO ($49.30)
Hero ($82.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.5, MP raises to $5.5, CO calls $5.50, Hero calls $5.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($22.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG bets $24.1 (All-In), MP raises to $162, CO calls $43.80 (All-In), Hero calls $76.65 (All-In).

Turn: ($243.95) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($243.95) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $243.96

Results in white below: 
UTG has Td Ts (two pair, tens and twos).
MP has Qd Qc (two pair, queens and twos).
CO has As Ac (two pair, aces and twos).
Hero has 2c 2d (four of a kind, twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $243.95. MP wins $85.34.

Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

I hate myself

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $147.60
CO: $132.10
BTN: $23.50
SB: $99
Hero (BB): $191.50
UTG: $49.90

Pre-Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($8) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5

Turn: ($18) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

River: ($38) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB raises to $60, Hero raises to $149, SB calls $20 and is All-In

Results: $198 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Threes full of Sevens) and WON $195 (+$96 NET)
Hero showed 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Deuces full of Sevens) and LOST (-$99 NET)

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $52.95
BB: $99.15
Hero (UTG): $93.10
MP: $97.75
CO: $83.45
BTN: $50

Pre-Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $2, MP calls $2, 3 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, MP calls $5, BB folds

Turn: ($16.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $12, MP calls $12

River: ($40.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $30, MP raises to $78.75 and is All-In, Hero calls $44.10 and is All-In

Results: $188.45 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero mucked 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$93.10 NET)
MP showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and WON $185.45 (+$92.35 NET)

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $86.55
Hero (BB): $50
UTG: $41.10
MP: $16
CO: $9.40
BTN: $89.10

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($2) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($2) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $7, MP folds, CO calls $7, SB calls $5

River: ($23) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $15, CO calls $1.90 and is All-In, SB raises to $30, Hero folds

Results: $54.90 Pot ($2.65 Rake)
SB showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Sevens) and WON $52.25 (+$29.75 NET)
CO mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$9.40 NET)

Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

ragpubhearuigbwrs i was playing this total fish heads up, finally have him where i want him, and bam

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($5.70)
Hero ($25.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
BB raises to $0.15, Hero (poster) calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.3, Hero raises to $1.25, BB raises to $5.5 (All-In), Hero calls $4.25.

Turn: ($11.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)
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River: ($11.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $11.35

Results in white below: 
BB has Qh Th (three of a kind, queens).
Hero has 6c Ac (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: BB wins $11.35.

Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

random observation

kinda interesting how swingy the short term can be

if you get in with overpair/combo draw/etc three times (100bb) in a session, it's a 6 buy-in difference between winning and losing all three times

Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

Avoidable #1
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $24.75
MP: $71.60
Hero (CO): $25.25
BTN: $24.30
SB: $40.45
BB: $6.90

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, 3 folds, MP raises to $7.75, Hero calls $4.85

Flop: ($15.85) Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
MP bets $6, Hero raises to $17.50 and is All-In, MP calls $11.50

Turn: ($50.85) 4http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($50.85) 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $50.85 Pot ($2.50 Rake)
MP showed Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks) and WON $48.35 (+$23.10 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks) and LOST (-$25.25 NET)

Avoidable #2
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $25
BTN: $20.25
SB: $27
BB: $25
UTG: $29.65
MP: $32.55

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.30, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.50, MP folds, Hero calls $3.20

Flop: ($9.35) 7http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
BB bets $6.80, Hero raises to $20.50 and is All-In, BB calls $13.70 and is All-In

Turn: ($50.35) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($50.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $50.35 Pot ($2.50 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens) and LOST (-$25 NET)
BB showed Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Sevens) and WON $47.85 (+$22.85 NET)

Avoidable #3 River Edition
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $18.40
MP: $46.60
Hero (CO): $36.60
BTN: $30.40
SB: $22.40
BB: $13.80

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($3.25) 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (3 Players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1, BTN folds

Turn: ($5.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($9.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $5, SB raises to $10.50, Hero calls $5.50

Results: $30.25 Pot ($1.50 Rake)
Hero mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a full house, Kings full of Fives) and LOST (-$14.50 NET)
SB showed Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a full house, Kings full of Queens) and WON $28.75 (+$14.25 NET)

Sad part is I wasn't even titled.

Edit: I guess the real question is are the first two bad if they 3bet 4-6% of their hands and possibly more against me?

Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

After being a decent low-stakes tournament player, I decided to switch to cash games. I didn't know where to start, so I just picked 0.25/0.50. I was outplayed and lost about $70 to reach point 1.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7...ombinedvj3.jpg

1. Moved up to $0.50/1.00 in an attempt to win back losses.
2. Moved up to $1.00/2.00 in an attempt to win back more losses.
3. Moved back down to $0.50/1.00. Went on TILT:

POKERSTARS GAME #11157822153: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/07/27 - 02:58:07 (ET)
Table 'Romilda' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: hongster123 ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 2: HY77 ($89.80 in chips)
Seat 3: DC888888 ($99 in chips)
Seat 4: BongBob ($101 in chips)
Seat 5: DrVonnastram ($252.80 in chips)
Seat 6: scandal21 ($150.80 in chips)
DC888888: posts small blind $0.50
BongBob: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HY77 [9h 6c]
DrVonnastram: folds
scandal21: raises $3 to $4
hongster123: folds
HY77: raises $8 to $12
DC888888: folds
BongBob: folds
scandal21: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [3d 2s Js]
scandal21: checks
HY77: bets $20
scandal21: raises $100 to $120
HY77: calls $57.80 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [3d 2s Js] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [3d 2s Js Jc] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
scandal21: shows [5s 8s] (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
HY77: mucks hand
scandal21 collected $178.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $181.10 | Rake $3
Board [3d 2s Js Jc 8d]
Seat 1: hongster123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: HY77 (button) mucked [9h 6c]
Seat 3: DC888888 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: BongBob (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: DrVonnastram folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: scandal21 showed [5s 8s] and won ($178.10) with two pair, Jacks and Eights

4. Realized that I suck at ringgames. Bought CR and started reading 2+2. Moved down to 0.10/0.25.

5. Horrible all-in luck. Moved down to 0.05/0.10.
6. Convinced my HS friend to lend me $500 so that I would be better rolled for higher limits. Money came with boomswitch
7. Moved up to 0.10/0.25.
8. Switched from PokerStars to Party.
9. Agreed to race my HS friend. First one to 100,000 buyins wins (dinner at any restaurant up to $100). That's $2500 for me and $250k for him. Moved up to 0.25/0.50.

Cliffnotes:
1) Tilt is bad (but it will help you make baller calls)
2) BR management is good

Re: **Official** uNL BBV Thread - October

Decent sessions ends like this:

Hand #1: "I know you are drawing Mr. Calling Station!"

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.40 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($281.77)
UTG ($23.91)
MP ($22.87)
CO ($36.41)
Button ($34.31)
Hero ($71.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.4, 1 fold, MP calls $2, CO folds.

Flop: ($5.60) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP calls $4.

Turn: ($13.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $12, MP calls $12.

River: ($37.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.47 (All-In), Hero calls $4.47.

Final Pot: $46.54

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac Jc (one pair, jacks).
MP has Tc 9d (two pair, tens and nines).
Outcome: MP wins $46.54. 

Hand #2: "Wet flop? Wait until you drown on/in the river!"
Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.40 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($40.48)
Hero ($41.30)
MP ($34.11)
CO ($86.29)
Button ($27.00)
SB ($24.14)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $1.6, MP calls $1.60, 3 folds, BB calls $1.20.

Flop: ($5) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, MP calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($13) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP calls $7.

River: ($27) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $10.4, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $37.40

Results in white below: 
MP doesn't show.
Outcome: MP wins $37.40. 

Hand #3: "You wrote it in your own topic, the c/r is always a huge overpair or a set. But the odds are so nice"

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.40 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($22.86)
Hero ($40.90)
MP ($8.33)
Button ($19.40)
SB ($24.08)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $1.6, 2 folds, SB calls $1.40, BB calls $1.20.

Flop: ($4.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2.4, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $22.68 (All-In), BB folds, Hero calls $12.68.

Turn: ($52.56) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)
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River: ($52.56) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $52.56

Results in white below: 
SB has 3h 3d (full house, threes full of eights).
Hero has Jc Jd (two pair, jacks and eights).
Outcome: SB wins $52.56. 

Hand #4: "Nice combo draw, but clean outs??"

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.40 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($12.54)
UTG ($171.30)
MP ($50.04)
Hero ($50.11)
SB ($15.87)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.60.

Flop: ($4.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($16.60) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $16.6, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $33.20

Results in white below: 
No showdown. UTG wins $33.20. 

BYE BYE MONEY!

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