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Dilznoofus 10-17-2007 09:22 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
MARK SEIF: dan druff is an out and out LIAR
MARK SEIF: and exaggerator
MARK SEIF: i have no problem going on record about that
MARK SEIF: and he is likely to be sued for his libelous and slanderous
MARK SEIF: statements
MARK SEIF: i dont normally say stuff like that but i read with my own
MARK SEIF: eyes some of his lies

Josem 10-17-2007 09:22 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
[ QUOTE ]
Absolute Poker can never be trusted again, no matter what they do. They are through. They have to be.

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree with this.

Things I would do if I were Absolute:

1) Employ an expert on creating a strategy to deal with this stuff

2) Employ someone from the 2p2 forums who can understand all this

3) Get them in a room together to map out a strategy

4) Get your auditor (Gaming Associates) to send a techy guy to identify the holes

5) Get the people from #1 and #2 to start answering customer questions; save their responses, so that your normal front-line responders can use the responses to answer coherently and quickly to customer feedback

6) Employ the world's leading computer security company to improve your security

7) Admit that there was a breach; That you learn from mistakes; that this experience has inspired absolute to become the world's leading and most secure online poker service

8) Every time you are criticised, reply coherently

9) Make the point that AP knows that it was compromised; that it has identified the flaw, and that it has fixed the flaw.

(P.S. Obviously I'm not interested in being a part of any of this)

suzzer99 10-17-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
Woah. Does Seif think this is all coming from Dan Druff? He seems to be one of the more level headed participants in this thread. You guys still wanna stick up for Seif?

heater 10-17-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
UNSEIF: I OPEN FOLD FULL HOUSES IN CAPPED POTS

MARK SEIF: with respect to that assertion that i open folded - that is
MARK SEIF: a total and complete LIE
MARK SEIF: that never happened and i challenge anyone anyone at all to
MARK SEIF: show me that hand
MARK SEIF: its is bald face LIE

noseeds99 10-17-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
he is calling dan druff a lier now and threatening lawsuit...lol

imabigdeal 10-17-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
[ QUOTE ]

MARK SEIF: i never said he was legit - dont put words in my mouth pleas


[/ QUOTE ]

found this pretty interesting

jmremote 10-17-2007 09:25 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
I think its unfortunate that some of the major poker news sites are not reporting on this. Guess they want AP's advertising buisness

Vega33 10-17-2007 09:25 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
Apologies if this has already been posted:


http://www.4flush.com/gamblingnews/onlin...e-revealed/343/

suzzer99 10-17-2007 09:26 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
Can stuckinpgh or his buddy, or someone who was there at least re-confirm they saw the Seif open-fold with their own eyes? I don't care if you think he was cheating or not, I just want to know he's lying here.

0evg0 10-17-2007 09:26 PM

Re: Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes
 
gg Mark Seif's career


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