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rzk 11-30-2007 11:21 PM

Re: weird donk
 
i would guess if nina said he is 50/10/0.9 over 38 hands that wouldn't change anybody's answer in this thread. if so, let's just assume these stats from now on.

inferno 12-01-2007 07:28 AM

Re: weird donk
 
fwiw I'd just call

Solid_p 12-01-2007 09:31 AM

Re: weird donk
 
Raise for value against mid pp, 5x, A/K high. I wouldnt always do it, but a "loose and stupid" player seems like the perfect victim for a value raise here.

rzk 12-01-2007 09:42 AM

Re: weird donk
 
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Raise for value against mid pp, 5x, A/K high. I wouldnt always do it, but a "loose and stupid" player seems like the perfect victim for a value raise here.

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TheHip41 12-01-2007 12:17 PM

Re: weird donk
 
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Raise for value against mid pp, 5x, A/K high. I wouldnt always do it, but a "loose and stupid" player seems like the perfect victim for a value raise here.

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think about this.

villian has some pp, like 88

he c/c the flop, and turn, and NOW decides to bet the river?

same thing with a 5.

There are a few reasons not to raise

1. we have absolutely 0 idea what this guy has.

2. he is not calling our riase with QTo

3. Getting 3bet here sucks, and we shouldn't call, and everyone here says that they are raise/folding really means they are raise/saying omfg I hate you AbsolutePoker/calling.

Oink 12-01-2007 12:29 PM

Re: weird donk
 
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Raise for value against mid pp, 5x, A/K high. I wouldnt always do it, but a "loose and stupid" player seems like the perfect victim for a value raise here.

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Would you call a raise?

Solid_p 12-01-2007 12:37 PM

Re: weird donk
 
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Raise for value against mid pp, 5x, A/K high. I wouldnt always do it, but a "loose and stupid" player seems like the perfect victim for a value raise here.

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Would you call a raise?

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Theoretically, I like mostly folding and sometimes calling. At the table, I do the reverse... I still think there's plenty of value in a raise.

TheHip41 12-01-2007 12:38 PM

Re: weird donk
 
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Raise for value against mid pp, 5x, A/K high. I wouldnt always do it, but a "loose and stupid" player seems like the perfect victim for a value raise here.

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Would you call a raise?

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Oink 12-01-2007 12:45 PM

Re: weird donk
 
IMO its something like

raise/fold ~ call >>>>>>>>>>>&gt ; raise/call.

If you cant lay it down to a 3-bet I really dont think you can raise as the value in the raise IMO is so close to 50%

Solid_p 12-01-2007 01:15 PM

Re: weird donk
 
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Raise for value against mid pp, 5x, A/K high. I wouldnt always do it, but a "loose and stupid" player seems like the perfect victim for a value raise here.

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2. he is not calling our riase with QTo



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I get called with two pair, Q kicker against these players. Maybe not often, but A/K will definitely look us up pretty often. I can't know this player exactly (what's his wtsd?), I'm just talking about 50/10 type players in general.


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