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lol cleveland in fourth place rofl

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Rofl indeed. #1 with a bullet.

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KJS

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The Sox played below expectation this year regardless of what PETCOA said.

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Really? Third-order wins indicate that if anything, the White Sox played above expectation.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/st.../standings.php

What are you basing your opinion on? Any facts?

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I'm basing my opinion on everyone else's opinion. I'm defining expectation as how well sports fans (knowledgeable and not so knowledgeable) expect them to do.

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Most knowledgeable people thought the White Sox would be absolutely horrendous this year. They seem to be right. You're basing your opinion on the idea that the White Sox got unlucky and/or should have been better, but no credible evidence exists to support that point.

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Well, the concensus prediction on this board was: Det, Cle, Min, Chi, KC.

The results were: Cle, Det, Min, Tied Chi & KC.

Cle and KC ended up above expectation and Det and Chi ended up below expectation. It is possible to be predicted to be horrendous (your definition was always "sucks = worse than Det and Cle") and to perform below expectation.

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Kyleb, I'll take $50 at even odds that the White Sox are above 4th in the ALC at the All-Star break if you can do transfers on Stars or Epassporte. I'm also curious about your 2+2 White Sox fan betting history.

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lost out on some easy money here apparently

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No offense, Kyle, but how did you not take this bet? I didn't think they'd be this bad, but I (and I think a lot of others) thought they'd be locked into 4th place for most of the season.

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As JoA said, it wasn't a good bet at even money, given that the Royals are absolutely terrible and it wouldn't be a stretch to see the White Sox beat out any one of the three other teams for third place.

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Manager Ron Gardenhire said Nick Punto has a head start at winning the second base position in 2008.

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wait wtf

I think Im renouncing my Twins fan status until Nick Punto is off the team

how the [censored] can you turn a .280/.250 season at 29!! into being the frontrunner for starting at a postion he'll suck at defensively

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That is pretty unacceptable given the fact that you have Alexi Casilla...

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That is pretty unacceptable given the fact that you have Alexi Casilla...

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does it even matter who they have?

he has the lowest VORP in baseball

im in shock at how he managed to get 500PA, I thought the whole idea behing VORP was it was readily available .. was Terry Ryand and Gardenhire that stupid to leave him in when many better players are around