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Genz 03-08-2007 02:53 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
VPIP100% got it quite fast, I think. At least up to NL50 or so. I played break even for more than a week now. You really can't say. Or if you think you'll manage to be such a favorite that you can maintain a winrate of something like 5/100 PTBB on NL10, 3 on NL25 and 2 on NL50, you can calculate yourself. Add boni and potential rakeback.
And btw: you need to know the game to have an hourly wage of over $100/hour. Take it slow or frustration will be overwhelming.

dboy23 03-08-2007 03:11 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
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I notice that people like to go broke with 7s a lot. And A4. I have no idea why but I've seen it quite a few times. Well in this case he has a draw I suppose.
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.3, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($6.8, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4.25</font>, SB calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($15.3, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $1.7</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $18.7
SB showed 7h 7d
Hero showed Ad As

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indeed.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($9)
SB ($1.70)
BB ($6.25)
UTG ($13.70)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($10.50)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($8.65)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8.65</font>, Hero calls $5.85.

Flop: ($17.45) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($17.45) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($17.45) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $17.45

Results below:
Hero has Ad As (one pair, aces).
CO has 7d 7s (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: CO wins $17.45.

Learning 03-08-2007 03:15 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
Has anyone here heard of people playing their way through college? I just got my FAFSA results and well....

I'm just curious if anyone's done it.

Genz 03-08-2007 03:22 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
Of course there are lots of them. But they are all quite experienced players and put a lot of effort into learning the game. But have you ever played a hand? Sorry, I don't want to be offensive. But I have the feeling that you are going on the poker hype and should figure out if you like the game in the first place. I don't think you should concern yourself with paying your bills with poker when you first start out.

Gelford 03-08-2007 03:52 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
Learning Omaha:

I enjoyed Rolf Slotbooms book a lot

I didn't enjoy Ciaffones book that much (He has an pure omaha book besides PL and NL Poker), but it is also ok.

PLO forum !!

kaz2107 03-08-2007 04:48 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
welp back from tha concert...

RAH: hand 410 was a me playin this donkeyish dude HU 250bbs deep. it was a really fun HU. i was played extremely aggro against him and he was playin as passive as could b and missin TONS of value the first half of our HU match. an example of this was i have JJ and raise pre. he calls and flop comes K84 rainbow. i bet he calls. turn brings another king. i bet he calls. river is a blank and i make a thin value bet on the river and he calls with KQ. lol. nice.

but basically i am just betting all day against him and then hand 410. i raise with 99 and he calls. flop comes A98 rainbow. i bet he raises i reraise he turbo shoves i turbo call. he flips over A8 and mhig. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ship it.

he then goes on to explain to me that i must work for AP cuz everytime he gets a hand i have a better one. bahahah. (or maybe u should try to get a bit of value when u hit ur hands fishy boi [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

Thac: i dont want my trip report to be all off topic or Emc and Matrix will lock my ass down and then my super long post will b for nada and i will b forced to cry myself to sleep. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] but yea i will b goin to a nuggs game on friday. we still dont have tha tickets in our hands but rumor has it that they r court side. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Freelancer 03-08-2007 06:20 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
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I am at 1150 in 3 weeks now, but only have around ~5,5k hands logged on 25NL.

Ill try to move up when I hit 10k hands with same winrate.

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Ugh I already have logged in ~9.5k hands so far. Just checked, I started on february the 27the so a bit over a week since I started.

Running at 23/20/3.4 and 7 ptbb/100 on nl50.

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keep it up, im happy to see one of these cashout and start over things working out.

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It is so far, bankroll is now at 1830$ even though I made one horrendous play (and one pretty sweet calldown)...


Here's the calldown hand (raw HH);
Seat 4: AverageGazou ( $98.72 )
Seat 5: Freelancer87 ( $52 )
Seat 6: lolol_I_PWNU ( $49.25 )
Seat 2: XingShi ( $49 )
Seat 1: axelxx ( $9.25 )
XingShi posts small blind [$0.25].
AverageGazou posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Freelancer87 [ Tc Ts ]
Freelancer87 raises [$2]
lolol_I_PWNU calls [$2]
axelxx folds.
XingShi folds.
AverageGazou folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Kh, 6d ]
Freelancer87 bets [$3]
lolol_I_PWNU raises [$10]
Freelancer87 calls [$7]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
Freelancer87 checks.
lolol_I_PWNU bets [$15]
Freelancer87 calls [$15]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
Freelancer87 checks.
lolol_I_PWNU checks.
Freelancer87 shows [ Tc, Ts ]two pairs, Tens and Sixes.
lolol_I_PWNU doesn't show [ Ah, Th ]a pair of Sixes.
Freelancer87 wins $52.75 from the main pot with two pairs, Tens and Sixes.

Here's a bad beat to show that I'm not actually invincible ( [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] );
Seat 1: kalle1000 ( $233.08 )
Seat 5: eMSig ( $50 )
Seat 3: Freelancer87 ( $119.83 )
Seat 6: sIXTEEN666 ( $46.50 )
Seat 4: lucasqueiroz ( $58.25 )
Seat 2: chippendale8 ( $65.05 )
Freelancer87 posts small blind [$0.25].
lucasqueiroz posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Freelancer87 [ Qs 8h ]
sIXTEEN666 folds.
kalle1000 folds.
chippendale8 folds.
Freelancer87 raises [$1.25]
lucasqueiroz calls [$1]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 6c, 9d ]
Freelancer87 bets [$2]
lucasqueiroz calls [$2]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
&gt;You have options at Jackpot #1314207 Table!.
Freelancer87 bets [$6]
&gt;You have options at Jackpot #1314207 Table!.
lucasqueiroz raises [$20]
Freelancer87 is all-In.
lucasqueiroz is all-In.
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
lucasqueiroz shows [ 9s, Ts ]a full house, Nines full of Tens.
Freelancer87 shows [ Qs, 8h ]a straight Eight to Queen.
Freelancer87 wins $61.58 from side pot #1 with a straight, Eight to Queen.
lucasqueiroz wins $114.50 from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of Tens.

And the hand where I made a totally [censored] up read and lost a stack because of it;
Seat 4: Luckbox_x ( $96.80 )
Seat 3: Freelancer87 ( $65.55 )
Seat 5: Greg_Oden ( $52.60 )
Seat 6: Aggi293 ( $44.95 )
Seat 1: Ali4444111 ( $12.39 )
Seat 2: plummer211 ( $26 )
Luckbox_x posts small blind [$0.25].
Greg_Oden posts big blind [$0.50].
Ali4444111 posts big blind [$0.50].
plummer211 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Freelancer87 [ Th Kh ]
Aggi293 folds.
Ali4444111 checks.
plummer211 checks.
Freelancer87 raises [$3]
Luckbox_x folds.
Greg_Oden calls [$2.50]
Ali4444111 folds.
plummer211 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 5d, 8h ]
Greg_Oden checks.
Freelancer87 bets [$5]
Greg_Oden raises [$17]
&gt;You have options at Table 126360 Table!.
&gt;You have options at Table 126764 Table!.
Freelancer87 is all-In.
Greg_Oden is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
Greg_Oden shows [ Kd, Ks ]two pairs, Kings and Eights.
Freelancer87 shows [ Th, Kh ]a pair of Eights.

Wolfram 03-08-2007 07:09 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
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Any hints on how to learn omaha? The lack of theoretical information really keeps someone like me from trying this game.

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I have the same problem. I just dont GET Omaha.

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0. Learn to read the board blind.
-You won't believe how much money is made in Omaha because beginners misread their hand (try to make full houses on double paired boards, use 3 cards to form a straight, etc.)

1. Omaha is a drawing game.
- Starting hands aren't as important as in HE
- Draw to the nuts. Play hands that can flop multiple nut draws.
- Don't get overexcited when you have a set
- A nut straight on the flop is a very vulnerable hand (but you need to protect it of course).
- If the board pairs, somebody has a full house. If a flush appears, somebody usually has it.
- 3-4th nut full house is often a weak hand.

2. In PL/NL Omaha, the nuts isn't the nuts
- Freerolls are the biggest edge you can get in big bet omaha.
- Be careful when you might be freerolled. You will have to fold the nuts to huge bets when you are likely being freerolled.

3. PL games are all about manipulating the pot size. The ratio of your stack to opponents stack to the pot is very important.

munkey 03-08-2007 08:57 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
It seems everyone's moving up to SSNL except me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

gl thac, kaz , antinome and everyone else ...

Looks like I'll have NL50 all to myself to skin some more fishies before joining u all [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

BR ~ $1900 now (from ~900 feb 8th) so only $700 to go before I'm going to consider playing some NL100 , though I might wait to 3k -such a NIT I know - lst time I played 10k hands I took a shot @ 1500. I'm going with kaz's bigger cushion recommendation this time FT variance minimising Win.

Freelancer 03-08-2007 09:03 AM

Re: **Official uNL Microbrew Thread: March(LC/NC goes here)**
 
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It seems everyone's moving up to SSNL except me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

gl thac, kaz , antinome and everyone else ...

Looks like I'll have NL50 all to myself to skin some more fishies before joining u all [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

BR ~ $1900 now (from ~900 feb 8th) so only $700 to go before I'm going to consider playing some NL100 , though I might wait to 3k -such a NIT I know - lst time I played 10k hands I took a shot @ 1500. I'm going with kaz's bigger cushion recommendation this time FT variance minimising Win.

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Meh When I was in your spot I was already playing at 100nl. Sure I had to move down again 5 or 6 times (lol at losing a buy in and moving down [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) but I learned a ton at the 100nl tables...

Right now I'm at 1830 bankroll and can't wait to move up to 100nl again, but I'm gonna stick to my bankroll limits I set for myself. I swear I'm going to grind out those last 170$ at 50nl. ;P


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