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It's impossible to be > 20% in the 16s imho

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Well its clearly not impossible as Im doing it.

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You haven't even played 500 tournies.
[censored] artard.

Re: $10k at the 27s in 1 month challenge
 

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what is your sn?

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I guess I cant go bragging about my big ROI and then refuse to give out my SN.

trixy&false

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It's impossible to be > 20% in the 16s imho

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Well its clearly not impossible as Im doing it.

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You haven't even played 500 tournies.
[censored] artard.

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I wasn't going to be that rude.. but I totally agree.. <500 sngs doesn't mean a whole lot.. my last 500 on sharkscope fluctuates by a TON.

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It's impossible to be > 20% in the 16s imho

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Well its clearly not impossible as Im doing it.

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400 games doesn't mean anything. This month I was at 27% ROI over my first 400 6.50s. After my next 170 I'm at 16%.

I'm not sure of what a good sample size is for figuring out your true ROI. I've heard 1000, but I think you need way more than that.

Re: $10k at the 27s in 1 month challenge
 

During his bet SpaceGravy had a stretch of 2,000 games where he broke even. Just sayin.

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It's impossible to be > 20% in the 16s imho

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Well its clearly not impossible as Im doing it.

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You haven't even played 500 tournies.
[censored] artard.

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speaking of retard, this is a very stupid line of thinking. Who the heck is going to continue at a level that theyre beating for over 20% ROI for 2000 SNGs? (or whatever sample size makes you happy, maybe 5000).

If you want to put some money up on my ability to maintain a 20% ROI over a certain number of $16 SNGs im willing to do that.

I love how regulars here turn into old coots when they here about a small sample size. "500?!! Why I remember once back in 1923, spacegravy himself had a losing period much longer than 500, clearly your results are meaningless son."

So do enlighten me, at what point do my results become meaningfull?

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During his bet SpaceGravy had a stretch of 2,000 games where he broke even. Just sayin.

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bwahahaha, you posted that while I was writing. I [censored] called it!!

Re: $10k at the 27s in 1 month challenge
 

hey, is action still available on this bet, this is the first time i've read about it? adjusted odds, whatever, lemme know

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500 is a couple days of playing for some people.. do you see why it's kind of a small sample?

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what's your sn? I'm sure you'll make tons of money on the 20% bet.

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During his bet SpaceGravy had a stretch of 2,000 games where he broke even. Just sayin.

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bwahahaha, you posted that while I was writing. I [censored] called it!!

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You didn't really call much. I don't think your results are meaningless, and I'm sure you're good, I just think your sample size is small because it is. Not rocket science.

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Prop bet that you can't maintain a 25% ROI at the 16s?

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How about a 20k at the 16s challenge?

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How about a 20k at the 16s challenge?

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easy at a 26% roi ldo.

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It's impossible to be > 20% in the 16s imho

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Well its clearly not impossible as Im doing it.

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You haven't even played 500 tournies.
[censored] artard.

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speaking of retard, this is a very stupid line of thinking. Who the heck is going to continue at a level that theyre beating for over 20% ROI for 2000 SNGs? (or whatever sample size makes you happy, maybe 5000).

If you want to put some money up on my ability to maintain a 20% ROI over a certain number of $16 SNGs im willing to do that.

I love how regulars here turn into old coots when they here about a small sample size. "500?!! Why I remember once back in 1923, spacegravy himself had a losing period much longer than 500, clearly your results are meaningless son."

So do enlighten me, at what point do my results become meaningfull?

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How's a $500 even money bet that you can't run at >20% ROI in the Stars $16 NLH 9-man SnGs for the first 1000 you play, starting Dec 1st?

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can i get in on this too?

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Im sorry to hear you had such a bad run. The idea that 500 SNGs is a meaningless sample size, and 1000 has meaning is kind of silly. All that a higher sample size does is narrow the confidence intervals.

But im glad that you think that 1000 is a meaningful number as Im now closing in on 1000 ( im currently at 976) and my overall ROI is 39%.

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what is your SN? Why do you keep avoiding that question.

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1000 isn't very meaningful, you stupid [censored].
1000 is just the outlines of our prop bet.

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Prop bet that you can't maintain a 25% ROI at the 16s?

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Please?

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I ran at 36% over my first 500 33s at party.
No, it's not my true roi.
/discussion

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what is your SN? Why do you keep avoiding that question.

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you missed it. it was trixy&false

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I ran at 36% over my first 500 33s at party.
Yes, it's my true roi.
/discussion

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FYP

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It's impossible to be > 20% in the 16s imho

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Well its clearly not impossible as Im doing it.

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You haven't even played 500 tournies.
[censored] artard.

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If you want to put some money up on my ability to maintain a 20% ROI over a certain number of $16 SNGs im willing to do that.

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how much can you afford to bet?

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I ran at 36% over my first 500 33s at party.
Yes, it's my true roi.
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FYP

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oh what a wonderful world that would be!

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what is your SN? Why do you keep avoiding that question.

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you missed it. it was trixy&false

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ty sir

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But im glad that you think that 1000 is a meaningful number as Im now closing in on 1000 ( im currently at 976) and my overall ROI is 39%.

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Clearly this isn't 1000 $16 SNGs. Filter the results.

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It's impossible to be > 20% in the 16s imho

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Well its clearly not impossible as Im doing it.

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You haven't even played 500 tournies.
[censored] artard.

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speaking of retard, this is a very stupid line of thinking. Who the heck is going to continue at a level that theyre beating for over 20% ROI for 2000 SNGs? (or whatever sample size makes you happy, maybe 5000).

If you want to put some money up on my ability to maintain a 20% ROI over a certain number of $16 SNGs im willing to do that.

I love how regulars here turn into old coots when they here about a small sample size. "500?!! Why I remember once back in 1923, spacegravy himself had a losing period much longer than 500, clearly your results are meaningless son."

So do enlighten me, at what point do my results become meaningfull?

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How's a $500 even money bet that you can't run at >20% ROI in the Stars $16 NLH 9-man SnGs for the first 1000 you play, starting Dec 1st?

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I would make adjustments to this bet. Either Id need much better odds (because conventional wisdom and everybody on here seem to think that this is undoable) or Id want to keep my results so far (which is what I was suggesting at first).

My counter offer is an even money bet that I can finish my first 1000 $16s (starting a couple weeks ago when I started playing them) with an ROI of 20% or greater.

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But im glad that you think that 1000 is a meaningful number as Im now closing in on 1000 ( im currently at 976) and my overall ROI is 39%.

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Clearly this isn't 1000 $16 SNGs. Filter the results.

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Yes, I acknowledge that. How the hell do I filter these things on sharkscope?

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1000 isn't very meaningful, you stupid [censored].
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400 games doesn't mean anything. This month I was at 27% ROI over my first 400 6.50s. After my next 170 I'm at 16%.

I'm not sure of what a good sample size is for figuring out your true ROI. I've heard 1000, but I think you need way more than that.

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But yeah, i recognize that 1000 isnt a great number either. You still havent answered my question of how many you think is a significant sample.

Re: $10k at the 27s in 1 month challenge
 

Fiasco, please PLEASE bet it. I want it on this, no way your true roi is over 20%.

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But yeah, i recognize that 1000 isnt a great number either. You still havent answered my question of how many you think is a significant sample.

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It is probably in the range of 5-10K.

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You still havent answered my question of how many you think is a significant sample.

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(ZOMG INCOMING SPACEGRAVY REFERENCE)

He won 25k at the 60s in like 3 weeks and broke even over a 2k stretch of games. I'd say alot more than 1000 for a reasonable sample size.

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I think by 2k you have a good idea of where your true roi is.. I've got around 6k, and my overall roi still fluctuates a couple % when I go through good and bad streaks.

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It's impossible to be > 20% in the 16s imho

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Well its clearly not impossible as Im doing it.

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You haven't even played 500 tournies.
[censored] artard.

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speaking of retard, this is a very stupid line of thinking. Who the heck is going to continue at a level that theyre beating for over 20% ROI for 2000 SNGs? (or whatever sample size makes you happy, maybe 5000).

If you want to put some money up on my ability to maintain a 20% ROI over a certain number of $16 SNGs im willing to do that.

I love how regulars here turn into old coots when they here about a small sample size. "500?!! Why I remember once back in 1923, spacegravy himself had a losing period much longer than 500, clearly your results are meaningless son."

So do enlighten me, at what point do my results become meaningfull?

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How's a $500 even money bet that you can't run at >20% ROI in the Stars $16 NLH 9-man SnGs for the first 1000 you play, starting Dec 1st?

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I would make adjustments to this bet. Either Id need much better odds (because conventional wisdom and everybody on here seem to think that this is undoable) or Id want to keep my results so far (which is what I was suggesting at first).

My counter offer is an even money bet that I can finish my first 1000 $16s (starting a couple weeks ago when I started playing them) with an ROI of 20% or greater.

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So you concede that 20% isn't probable for you?

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Why is everyone hating on Fiasco? Yes, it is a small sample size. But, so what. Hey, damn nice job, Fiasco.

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But yeah, i recognize that 1000 isnt a great number either. You still havent answered my question of how many you think is a significant sample.

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It is probably in the range of 5-10K.

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Ah, I see. So if I were to run at a -20% ROI over say, 2000 tourneys, I shouldnt worry about it because its nowhere near a significant sample size. After all, everyone has downswings. This is the advice you would give?

Re: $10k at the 27s in 1 month challenge
 

Obviously there is no true roi since your game and the skill of the field constantly changes.
Why even bother about this stuff.
Just play your best and try to learn, that's all you can do.

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He's played 435 16s @ about 33%