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baronzeus 08-18-2006 09:14 AM

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so many peopel said the same things to me when i made my moves up to high stakes. im not on the verge of busto, and never will be. all the haters can go to hell. im glad tay came in here and showed them what he thought.

btw, nice job in the plo game right now

Chump Change 08-18-2006 09:28 AM

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so many peopel said the same things to me when i made my moves up to high stakes. im not on the verge of busto, and never will be. all the haters can go to hell. im glad tay came in here and showed them what he thought.

btw, nice job in the plo game right now

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Yeah I checked back in and now he's on 4 buyins. I missed the acttion. Goddamn triplewitch had 8 when he left though. Bananas.

I'm not trying to jump into the middle of anything but I thought it was being established that nobody is hating and, in fact, like 85% are outright worshipping.

snagglepuss 08-18-2006 09:29 AM

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hadn't read the updates in this thread in a while.

of course im jealous of anyone making sick ton amounts of money playing poker on the internet for their life.

im also jealous of lottery winners. and jealous of tom from myspace for being a billionaire. and will be jealous of whoever cures cancer.

no one has said aba isn't an excellent, world class online poker player, at least i haven't.

but to dismiss the importance of running well in these aggressive, high variance games is pretty dumb.

and to dismiss the variance that was obviously on aba's side as he moved up through the limits without a huge roll.

anyhow, WAY TO GO BRIAN~!

sponger, when did you become a douche?

baronzeus 08-18-2006 09:31 AM

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i was mainly directing it at the people who keep saying he's running good, etc. i had no problem dealing with the downswings i faced (despite the facts that at 300/600 they are huge) and this guy is older and more experienced in poker than me. he will be fine.

Gildwulf 08-18-2006 09:37 AM

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hadn't read the updates in this thread in a while.

of course im jealous of anyone making sick ton amounts of money playing poker on the internet for their life.

im also jealous of lottery winners. and jealous of tom from myspace for being a billionaire. and will be jealous of whoever cures cancer.

no one has said aba isn't an excellent, world class online poker player, at least i haven't.

but to dismiss the importance of running well in these aggressive, high variance games is pretty dumb.

and to dismiss the variance that was obviously on aba's side as he moved up through the limits without a huge roll.

anyhow, WAY TO GO BRIAN~!

sponger, when did you become a douche?

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you suck hard at bbv

Chump Change 08-18-2006 09:40 AM

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Saying somebody runs good isn't a dis, most players can't profit and capitalize on their good runs. They don't even notice them. You still have to be a very good player to take advantage of the good runs.

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I'm gonna go ahead and quote myself because I think it sums things up. I hope that's not too arrogant.

I know all of you, everyday, see somebody playing a hand so retardedly and weak, checking behind on the river with nuts and other [censored]. And you think, damn, give me your cards if you don't want them.

You must be very very good to maximize profit during good runs and minimize losses during bad runs, like ABA quite obviously has.

snagglepuss 08-18-2006 09:43 AM

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you suck hard at bbv

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http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/~fanf...ug/crybaby.png

Chump Change 08-18-2006 09:49 AM

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i was mainly directing it at the people who keep saying he's running good, etc. i had no problem dealing with the downswings i faced (despite the facts that at 300/600 they are huge) and this guy is older and more experienced in poker than me. he will be fine.

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Yeah I can dig it. I guess I shouldn't speak for anybody but myself.

When I say he (or anybody) is running good, it's implied that they are also very talented, to be able to maximze a run to it's fullest potential.

It doesn't mean that when the run is over they will fall apart and go busto, it also means that they are talented enough to slow the bleeding and not have the bad run affect them nearly as much as it would a less talented player.

If anybody else was implying the busto part, that's just [censored] and I don't represent that camp.

I was watching him for longer just now playing PLO, my main game, and one he just picked up, and he is obviously very talented.

Gildwulf 08-18-2006 09:57 AM

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you suck hard at bbv

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http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/~fanf...ug/crybaby.png

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nice, that was funny in oot like a year ago

seriously though, you do suck at bbv

snagglepuss 08-18-2006 10:07 AM

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gildwulf,

this thread is for discussing how awesome aba is. not for you being bitter for me calling you a douchebag for taking 20 minutes to make a decision in a live poker game. and then subsequently misplaying your hand (though results showed call was +ev). and then crying about it.

please, take your personal bitterness elsewhere or to pm's. perhaps i can not suck at bbv by making 5k posts of uninspired one-liners and hope ~10% of them are funny?

now, back to telling aba he ran well, and being incredibly jealous.

Spy Dog 08-18-2006 10:09 AM

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Congrats aba. How did you sleep after a 24 hour, +170k session? I would imagine it was a lengthy and enjoyable slumber.

mlagoo 08-18-2006 10:10 AM

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aba,

at what point in your poker career did you get over your psychological attachment to overpairs (if it ever existed)

because i need to do that

S0meGuy 08-18-2006 10:14 AM

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I BELIEVE! [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

/bow

S0meGuy

ggbman 08-18-2006 11:42 AM

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Sponger,

I agree that there is a lot of jealousy in this thread, however some of the stuff you are saying here is silly trust me. Now, let me qualify this by saying that literally EVERYONE i have ever spoken two has had a ton of praise for Aba's game, he may be the best regarded internet player i have heard of. I also have a TON of respect for the amount of hours/marathon sessions he puts in, i think that is really impressive.

But as Schneids and others have said, you cannot do this without running hot. A large part of this comes from the fact that statistically, if you are taking shots, you should have a few go horribly wrong and set you back enough that it takes you a while to rebuild. It doesn't apply to just NL, it applies to all of poker in general trust me. I really think Brian should know that people are going to be jealous, and that some people remarking that you need to run hot to do this is not a knock on his game, and it does not take away from his accomplishments, it's just a remark that no matter how good you are, you need to run good at the right times to move up that fast. Period. All that said, congrats Brian, it sounds like you work harder for it than anyone.

TheWorstPlayer 08-18-2006 01:22 PM

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Congrats aba. How did you sleep after a 24 hour, +170k session?

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With 2 girls, obviously.

KingNeo 08-18-2006 02:44 PM

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Sponger,

I agree that there is a lot of jealousy in this thread, however some of the stuff you are saying here is silly trust me. Now, let me qualify this by saying that literally EVERYONE i have ever spoken two has had a ton of praise for Aba's game, he may be the best regarded internet player i have heard of. I also have a TON of respect for the amount of hours/marathon sessions he puts in, i think that is really impressive.

But as Schneids and others have said, you cannot do this without running hot. A large part of this comes from the fact that statistically, if you are taking shots, you should have a few go horribly wrong and set you back enough that it takes you a while to rebuild. It doesn't apply to just NL, it applies to all of poker in general trust me. I really think Brian should know that people are going to be jealous, and that some people remarking that you need to run hot to do this is not a knock on his game, and it does not take away from his accomplishments, it's just a remark that no matter how good you are, you need to run good at the right times to move up that fast. Period. All that said, congrats Brian, it sounds like you work harder for it than anyone.

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I must say, ggbman makes some good posts.

teamdonkey 08-19-2006 03:32 AM

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But as Schneids and others have said, you cannot do this without running hot.

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He started at 0.25/0.50 in December but was rolled for 2/4 and had moved up to that by January. he's said from December to the begininng of June he played ~300k hands, so let's call December 50k hands and assume he built his bankroll from 2/4 to 50/100 in 250k hands. If he moves up every time he has 25 buyins for the next level, he needs to make a total of 116.7 buyins to have a roll for 50/100 (12.5 buyins at 2/4 will take you from 10k to 15k, 16.7 buyins at 3/6 from 15k to 25k, etc). 116.7 buyins over 250k hands is a winrate of 4.7BB/100.

i would assume for one of the best players in the world, 4.7BB/100 over those limits isn't unreasonable, and rather than having to run well to get to 50/100 maybe he just would have to NOT run badly.

delta k 08-19-2006 04:49 AM

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sponger, when did you become a douche?

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delta k 08-19-2006 04:53 AM

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aba,

who the [censored] cares if random online people are jealous or giving you crap? I'd rather have a 170k day than the respect of most people in this thread. F the haters, nice job. (come on karma!)

Yeti 08-19-2006 05:19 AM

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teamdonkey,

Not running badly over 300k hands of taking shots is running hot.

KingNeo 08-19-2006 01:01 PM

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teamdonkey,

Not running badly over 300k hands of taking shots is running hot.

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Paul B. 12-02-2007 03:57 AM

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bump

DMoogle 12-02-2007 03:59 AM

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Funny that a couple of months ago this would be "just another day" at 300/600.


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