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0evg0 10-28-2007 10:48 PM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
preflop fine
flop fine
turn [censored] terrible
river b/f $50 and im rly surprised someone else already said this, nh

FishSticks 10-28-2007 10:54 PM

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I only like a turn bet if you are bluffing any river.


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HEY! Only took 4 pages for someone to agree with me! (sir are you a winning or losing player...)

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ikestoys coached POTRIPPER.

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ikestoys 10-28-2007 11:20 PM

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I only like a turn bet if you are bluffing any river.


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HEY! Only took 4 pages for someone to agree with me! (sir are you a winning or losing player...)

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i win a little.

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Im looking at my statement again and I don't think its very true. If a face card falls then go for it, but bombing an deuce turn probably isn't great. That being said, I'm still meh on the turn bet because he could easily be floating

jlocdog 10-28-2007 11:41 PM

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Chase- I expect him to have 22-88 often as well. Difference is, I don't think he folds them once he calls turn often enough for a river bet to be profitable.

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You have more showdown equity on the river than folding equity, so I check

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This statement holds true....

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I would actually like to retract this quote. Against this opponent I would much rather b/f the river precisely because he is not folding his PP and he is very unlikely to bet 66- either. Also, he is rarely if ever going to attempt to bluff you given your line and stacks. Sorry for the confusion....

Acemanhattan 10-29-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
Alright, so what i wont back down on is my thought process based on how I concieve he would play his hand. I think its based in sound logic. What I will concede is that my perception of how he woud play his hand may be completley unreasonable. Question I have is how do we decide that our pot equity on the turn, lets say its around 12 percent assuming we are drawing live > than our fold equity vs his range? What can someone tell me mathematically that shows how -ev betting the turn is vs a range we only have 10% actual equity against. Not arguing anymore, just asking another question.

carrotsnake 10-29-2007 12:37 AM

Re: Bluffing....Bluffing.....Bluffing... FULL HOUSE! Now what?
 
bet 30 dollars, done

0evg0 10-29-2007 12:37 AM

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bet 30 dollars, done

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seriously

i'm torn between $30-$50

you'll simply never get exploited by a random doing this

Acemanhattan 10-29-2007 12:46 AM

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bet 30 dollars, done

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The reason you can say "done" so definitively is obv because you have a certain view. Why? Seems like that is what this venue is for....

carrotsnake 10-29-2007 12:50 AM

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no, its really not, this avenue is for me to be as much of a troll as humanly possible without getting aj or orange to ban me, and even if this occurs, I'd be ok

Acemanhattan 10-29-2007 01:01 AM

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no, its really not, this avenue is for me to be as much of a troll as humanly possible without getting aj or orange to ban me, and even if this occurs, I'd be ok

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Great, thanks I feel honored for your guest trolling.


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