Re: Nath....
 

Tuq,

Check my team, let's talk.

Re: Nath....
 

Dids,

Will do. I respect you for overlooking your Seahawks homerism and telling me Shaun Alexander was a bad pick. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] So far you are quite correct about that, I consider benching him every week, which is a pretty damning thing to do to a first rounder. But that's how full up I am on RBs.

Topic: what was nath's undertitle before this and will it be restored? I don't think it was custom.

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All,

FWIW, when I read the OP, I thought J banned nath for trolling, THEN nath created the Jew-Rollo account.

To clarify my opinion on this:

I think punishing nath for his so-called "trolling" was not appropriate.

I think perma-banning here was not appropriate.

I think banning for creating Jew-Rollo was appropriate.

I've suggested to jurollo that in the future he allow other mods to make decisions regarding matters he's involved in.

Re: Nath....
 

tuq,

It was CEO of Gild Corp

Re: Nath....
 

[ QUOTE ]
All,

FWIW, when I read the OP, I thought J banned nath for trolling, THEN nath created the Jew-Rollo account.

To clarify my opinion on this:

I think punishing nath for his so-called "trolling" was not appropriate.

I think perma-banning here was not appropriate.

I think banning for creating Jew-Rollo was appropriate.

I've suggested to jurollo that in the future he allow other mods to make decisions regarding matters he's involved in.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with all of this, especially the last bit. I think it goes to all mods. If you are being harassed or trolled or whatever then because of your personal involvement someone else should decide what to do. I actually think it should probably be Mat or Ryan but another mod is significantly better than the one allegedly being trolled.

Re: Nath....
 

Also, I don't think Mike Haven should have locked the thread in AtF.

When a high-profile poster gets suspended or banned it's worthwhile to discuss it even after they are reinstated. All parties involved, and others that have a valid opinion, should be able to say their piece.

This is especially important when there is the perception out there that mods will defend other mods no matter what, and that mod actions depend heavily on whether or not a given user is chummy with the given mod. Locking these threads looks like some kind of cover-up and in real terms these threads could help to make it clear what gets people banned so everybody knows the standards.

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Yeah I was surprised by that lock, while so many OT threads persist in ATF (and don't get me wrong, I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] MH for every non-lock he makes in ATF). It could definitely be perceived as a stifling of conversation.

EMc: yep, CEO of Gildwulf Corp. or whatever sounds right.

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agree with Jared for the reasons he gives. I don't see a reason to lock that atf thread.

Re: Nath....
 

yeah i also thought jew-rollo was created to circumvent a ban for "trolling" which would be ridiculous. in hindsight jurollo banning nath was not over the line, but a permaban is probably too much. but then he came here and posted about it, so that's that.

Re: Nath....
 

Every regular in ATF knows I am always willing to reopen any thread where someone has something to add.

No one has PMed me; no one has made a comment in the ATF Chat thread.

It seemed to me to be the perfect time to lock it after nath posted.

However, as you and other mods would like it left open, it is now.