Re: Am I a chicken to fold? (200NL 6max)
 

i mean there's a posting bias that exists here...id guess that 75-80% of hands posted are hands that the hero lost...people question themselves when they lose...i think most guys respond well insofar as it doesnt matter what the villian has this time but in the long run...we know you lost to a higher set...the point is this spot is not a fold no matter what you were shown

Re: Am I a chicken to fold? (200NL 6max)
 

If you start finding folds with hands like these chances are you'll lose a lot more in the long run from folding to bad opponents that overplay their hands than by making great folds when they do have set-over-set.

The pot is raised, the board is very drawy, and effective stacks are only 125BB (i.e. not deep), and you don't have a very good read on villain so stick it in there.

In the long run you will make money in this spot.

And another thing:

Even if you put him on having only sets or J9/96 you are still a favorite vs. that range:

Board: Jc 9h 6h 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.364% 61.36% 00.00% 729 0.00 { 2h2s }
Hand 1: 38.636% 38.64% 00.00% 459 0.00 { JJ, 99, 66, J9s, 96s, J9o, 96o }


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Re: Am I a chicken to fold? (200NL 6max)
 

you get it in here but set over set sucks, which without reading results is what i guess happened.

Re: Am I a chicken to fold? (200NL 6max)
 

PF really depends on how often you can steal if you miss. If you don't steal enough pots postflop, minraising is a disaster. If you do, minraising gives many of the benefits of raising at little risk. If a larger raise allows you to steal more often, then it can be better than calling or minraising.

If you're playing solely to flop a set or fold, you want to expect at least 12x your preflop investment when you flop and set AND win. Obviously that amount varies depending on stack sizes and other factors since set-over-set and bigger hands play a big role (you often get stacked when you run into those), but 12x is a good rule of thumb.

As played once you hit that set I'd go all-in every time unless opponent is a known total nit.

Re: Am I a chicken to fold? (200NL 6max)
 

This is really close IMO. We limp PF, check the flop and now raise the turn. Our hand has to look a lot like 66/22 to him...and yet he's willing to overbet push another 100 BBs on top of our raise!!?? Pretty horrible play with anything we beat. His stats look pretty normal. Flame away, I'm folding.

Re: Am I a chicken to fold? (200NL 6max)
 

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If you do, minraising gives many of the benefits of raising at little risk.

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Im really keen about that PNL thingy, because mostly authors seem to disagree with whole ssnl-hsnl community...

Re: Am I a chicken to fold? (200NL 6max)
 

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I know pre-flop call is questionable

[/ QUOTE ]why? a set is mostly the nutzzz, no matter if it's a set 7s or 2s... or not?

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Because limp-calling PPs vs. button raises is hugely -EV?

Set-mining vs. button raisers in 6-max is pretty terrible.