Re: 25-50 hand vs Diablo
 

Ego contest:

http://espn.starwave.com/media/nfl/2..._owens_195.jpg

VS.

http://www.greetingmania.com/Veepers/images/devil.jpg

At least we can all sleep on the fact that you will forever be in GoG's shadown. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

-Jason

Re: 25-50 hand vs Diablo
 

Strassa,

According to rumors, GoG and Mahatma are both busto and out of the game. I'm still kickin' baby.


Also, I have said many times that I am far from the best of the short-handed NL players there and I am definitely not one of the strongest HU players.

As for ego, I'm not the one with the badass website!

Re: 25-50 hand vs Diablo
 

POT CONTROL.

Re: 25-50 hand vs Diablo
 

Nice message board on that site.

Re: 25-50 hand vs Diablo
 

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Diablo, why is 99 and 88 not realistic?

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bobbo, do you often c/r-push the turn for your full stack with 99/88 if there are no overcards on the board? i realize i'm generalizing and being simplistic, and maybe it's the david sklansky part of me talking, but i almost never do that. i suspect diablo rarely does it either, save perhaps against the laggiest of maniacs.

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Yes (I typed more, maybe almost an explanation/justification, but yes sums it up)

Re: 25-50 hand vs Diablo
 

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Do we usually play TT for stacks?


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What the fck kind of statement is this? Do we play TT for stacks? Is this a serious question?

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Umm, jason, plz review mr. sklasnky's chart for #bets that can be won/lost with a certain hand. thanks!

Re: 25-50 hand vs Diablo
 

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Jason,

For future reference, the name of that line is stackadonk.

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it's such an obvious, classic line with AA/KK, and one i've been using since $25nl, that it kinda shocks me how nearly all the responses in this thread are saying to pay you off.

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In a short handed game it's standard to take ANY overpair that way, mike. IMO / IME / etc etc etc. Thats why TT is a very close decision here, and thats why it's good to post it. If strassa had, say, 97, it's a much easier decision then TT. I would hope.

Also, it is interesting often the best line at the simplest stage of poker typically is still the best line at a more complex level.

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He also told me he'd never use this line against a good player, also fair.

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Elaborate? What do you CR the turn with in this spot then? I think its a great line against someone who has a habbit of floating the flop in position... Or is your implication that no good players play that way

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Jason,

For future reference, the name of that line is stackadonk.

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it's such an obvious, classic line with AA/KK, and one i've been using since $25nl, that it kinda shocks me how nearly all the responses in this thread are saying to pay you off.

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Hey mike,

I, too, could see Diablo having a couple of non-bluffs that don't beat TT here (99/88), as long as he can have those hands given his pf action (Strassa claims he can't).

The point is that against Strassa's image, Diablo puts him on a range of hands where TT is around the top of that range. I use this line, too, against tough floaters who love to attack weakness. If I view my opponent as being at the extreme end of this spectrum, I need A8+ (of my legit hands) to do this. So, I don't think Bobbo's read of 88/99 is so far off, if you are just talking about his flop and turn play.

The added benefit of doing this with the bottom overpairs is that you may get the tough player to fold JJ and down when you c/r all-in.

Re: 25-50 hand vs Diablo
 

cero,

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, too, could see Diablo having a couple of non-bluffs that don't beat TT here (99/88), as long as he can have those hands given his pf action (Strassa claims he can't).

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I think Jason (I may have read wrong) was only enforcing the idea that yes, diablo does play 99/88 that way. (Raise it pf, not open limp)