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Whatever. MMA is littered with people who couldn't hack it in the ring. You don't see it working the other way. That should pretty much say everything.

Eliot,

MMA is already where wrestling was. In the trailer parks and joke book.

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Your comments in this thread show complete ignorance as to the direction in which these two sports are headed.

[/ QUOTE ]Eh, to be honest, I think UFC is a fad. The fights are cool, but in all honesty, most don't live up to the hype. The ground game is probably the most boring aspect of the it and the trend seems to be to going in that direction. If anything, UFC was much cooler when it was filled with boxing outcast that loved beating the hell out of people. All these MMA guys are pretty boring to watch. If Liddell wasn't in UFC, I think I probably wouldn't even watch it.

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This may or may not be true. But what is undeniable is that boxing can learn a lot from some of the drivers of UFC's success. It won't, but it could. UFC is doing a lot of things right.

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UFC is doing a lot of things right.

[/ QUOTE ] From a marketing stand point, I agree. Dana White could probably help turn around boxing as well. I said this a few weeks ago, but in my opinion a good boxing match is better than a good UFC match and I still stand by that. For those who disagree, seriously, go watch some classic boxing on ESPN Classic. The stuff is amazing! Epic battles lasting 10+_ rounds. Punches being thrown left and right, knockdowns, the crazy crowd. Huge behemoths giving everything they have. Just unreal.

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Whatever. MMA is littered with people who couldn't hack it in the ring. You don't see it working the other way. That should pretty much say everything.

Eliot,

MMA is already where wrestling was. In the trailer parks and joke book.

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Your comments in this thread show complete ignorance as to the direction in which these two sports are headed.

[/ QUOTE ]Eh, to be honest, I think UFC is a fad. The fights are cool, but in all honesty, most don't live up to the hype. The ground game is probably the most boring aspect of the it and the trend seems to be to going in that direction. If anything, UFC was much cooler when it was filled with boxing outcast that loved beating the hell out of people. All these MMA guys are pretty boring to watch. If Liddell wasn't in UFC, I think I probably wouldn't even watch it.

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Everybody has a right to their opinion, but the numbers don't lie. UFC's growth shows no signs of slowing.

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can you post these numbers?

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can you post these numbers?

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No. But that doesn't mean I haven't seen them. I can go look around the web and find some stuff I'm sure. It's everywhere. I don't know how many times I have read or watched some news story re: UFC's growth over the last couple of years.

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I just want to read it out of interest, thats all.

What is interesting is in that article someone linked, UFC appears to have taken a vast majority of WWE fans, specifically for PPV events. Boxing isn't as big as UFC, but its PPV popularity is still incredibly strong.

Does anyone have any figures for last nights fight? The estimated draw was 1.4mil.

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UFC's growth comes at a time when boxing appears on life support.

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honestly i think itd be more interesting to see mayweather fight someone like buakaw under k-1 rules.

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Eh, to be honest, I think UFC is a fad. The fights are cool, but in all honesty, most don't live up to the hype. The ground game is probably the most boring aspect of the it and the trend seems to be to going in that direction. If anything, UFC was much cooler when it was filled with boxing outcast that loved beating the hell out of people. All these MMA guys are pretty boring to watch. If Liddell wasn't in UFC, I think I probably wouldn't even watch it.

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The ground game is just like the run away defensive game in boxing. just like people thought the PBF fight was boring when there was a lot of strategy involved. At least the ground game in UFC has punches and submissions which can end a fight.

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Whatever. MMA is littered with people who couldn't hack it in the ring. You don't see it working the other way. That should pretty much say everything.

Eliot,

MMA is already where wrestling was. In the trailer parks and joke book.

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Your comments in this thread show complete ignorance as to the direction in which these two sports are headed.

[/ QUOTE ]Eh, to be honest, I think UFC is a fad. The fights are cool, but in all honesty, most don't live up to the hype. The ground game is probably the most boring aspect of the it and the trend seems to be to going in that direction. If anything, UFC was much cooler when it was filled with boxing outcast that loved beating the hell out of people. All these MMA guys are pretty boring to watch. If Liddell wasn't in UFC, I think I probably wouldn't even watch it.

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The ground game is getting a bit boring lately because there's been too many guys not staying active on the ground anymore. Even standup, there seems to be a lot more cautious fighters these days. I'm betting the UFC is going to start tinkering with the rules/enforcement a bit to push the action more (stand guys up quicker, deduct points for inaction, etc). I think the ground game is even more exciting than the standup game when done right. Battles between submission fighters can be exhibitions of amazing technical skills.