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Reef 01-05-2007 03:12 PM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
from Izverg:

Average length of a turbo SNG is 53 hands in my limited Stars database.

$105+9 : 0.9 FPP/h
$210+15 : 1.4 FPP/h
$315+20 : 1.9 FPP/h

Annorax 01-05-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
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Third FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches $5.00.

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When does it reach 5$?

In my db the rake has never been more than 3$ playing 100$ NL FR and 200$ NL FR.

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IIRC 50/100 and higher.

BK1248 01-05-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
Follow the queen 6 max - .567vpp/hand based on 14,136 hand sample size since jan 1 07.

Midnight baseball - .783 6 max

tmfs 01-05-2007 07:44 PM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
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Third FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches $5.00.

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When does it reach 5$?

In my db the rake has never been more than 3$ playing 100$ NL FR and 200$ NL FR.

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IIRC 50/100 and higher.

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Actually 2/4 and higher

kidpokeher 01-06-2007 01:29 AM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
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I'll throw in my two cents here for the seven card games:

7 Card Stud Hi:
1/2 = .434
2/4 = .435
*interesting*


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3/6 = .4766
5/10 = .8135

~5K hands at each level.

grouchie 01-07-2007 01:03 AM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
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deepdowntruth 01-07-2007 09:16 AM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
I'd really like to see more 1/2NL players posting their VPP/hand, particularly their pre- and post-2007 numbers.

I've gone through my PT database, and of course I know these aren't independent data, but of those players for whom I have more than 4000 hands, all but one are getting .500 VPP/hand or less. I am now getting .500 on the nose, over 23,382 hands since Jan 1st. Should it make a difference that I play exclusively on the fast tables?

I checked my friend's database. In 2006 he made .619 over 16,757 hands. In 2007 he has made .533 over 35,868 hands.

Are the games getting tighter, thereby generating less rake?

grouchie 01-07-2007 10:31 AM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
i think a lot of it is going to depend on
1] your playing style. If you are laggro and playing more hands, you are going to be contributing to driving up pot sizes.
if you are a set miner, now there are really only 5 people on the table who are contributing and once in a while you hit a big hand and try to make a big pot.

2] table selection. If you are good at tracking down the good tables and finding the maniacs, you are going to accumulate alot more vpps.

wrschultz 01-07-2007 09:11 PM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
3/6 limit 6 max - .715 VPP/hand over only 2k hands.

JaredL 01-07-2007 09:13 PM

Re: Pokerstars: VPP per hand
 
Here's what we have so far:
No Limit Hold'em 6 max:
50 - .235, .255
100 - .405
200 - .56, .57, .57, .6
400 - .622, .63, .636
600 - .784
1000 - .84

No Limit Hold'em full:
10 - .0317
50 - .242
100 - .445, .445, .45, .471
200 - .495, .567
400 - .63, .656
600 - .763
1000 - 1.00

Limit Hold'em 6 max:
2/4 - .45
5/10 - 1.1
10/20 - 1.4
15/30 - 1.5

Full:
1/2 - .444
2/4 - .429, .467
3/6 - .617
5/10 - 1.08
10/20 - 1.36
15/30 - 1.51
30/60 - 1.49

Stud
Hi:
1/2 - .434
2/4 - .435
3/6 - .476
5/10 - .8135

Razz:
1/2 - .278
2/4 - .303

Hi/Lo:
1/2 - .507
2/4 - .576

Pot-Limit Omaha:
100 full - .69
200 full - .99


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