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BigPoppa 09-26-2007 09:34 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
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jullius raises $15.


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PartysOver 09-26-2007 10:09 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.133% 47.04% 01.09% 503424 11693.00 { AsKs }
Hand 1: 51.867% 50.77% 01.09% 543380 11693.00 { random }

lol

tarath, read the pf action... utg limp/min rr/checked flop... i dont care for a flop bet

nielso put in like ANY range for BTN... this is a very meh push. that said i do it in some similar spots and see a huge huge range of hands from air to two pair... it is very thin though

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lol this kinda of logic says bluffing the river is always wrong with 22 on an 10,10,9,9,A board. I have zero equity against a random hand lol.

The random hand doesn't always call, You actually have a lot of FE. The pf action makes a bluff here even scarier. If anything your argument says anything it says why a c/c is so bad. Even if Nielso read was the the villian had ATC calling here is much worse than betting if you think you can bluff out the bottom chunk of his range.

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it's not "FOLD YOUR BAD AGAINST A RANDOM HAND"

1) he doesnt have FE
2) nielso's move is extremely thin (i do it too a lot)
3) so you're saying he should b/c instead of c/c

the problem is that if he bets, shorty pushes and pfrr calls or reraises nielso loses more money than if he c/f when pfrr gets in pot. If it is heads up with short stack, b/c >> c/c, as it is, c/c>>b/c because pfrr checking flop is scary to me after shorty reopens action to him.

Hattifnatt 09-26-2007 10:13 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
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You are fast becoming SSNLs Recallme.

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Nielsio 09-26-2007 10:19 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
Bram,


Raise up way more.

Unless it's PL ofcourse.

jamzfive 09-26-2007 10:39 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
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Thread summary- Nielsio mashes buttons, gets lucky, and claims he had a read.

The other 20 times this didn't work out, he instead posted about the planted explosives that brought down the Twin Towers on 2+2

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Nielsio 09-26-2007 10:40 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
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Thread summary- Nielsio mashes buttons, gets lucky, and claims he had a read.

The other 20 times this didn't work out, he instead posted about the planted explosives that brought down the Twin Towers on 2+2

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Countdown to busto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STbD9XMCOho

Bramsterdam 09-26-2007 10:55 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
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Bram,


Raise up way more.

Unless it's PL ofcourse.

[/ QUOTE ]I usually pick up the pot, or get it HU when I raise to $15 in these spots.

Could you elaborate why raising to $19 is better? Just to take it down pf right?

Nielsio 09-26-2007 11:23 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
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Bram,


Raise up way more.

Unless it's PL ofcourse.

[/ QUOTE ]I usually pick up the pot, or get it HU when I raise to $15 in these spots.

Could you elaborate why raising to $19 is better? Just to take it down pf right?

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Because you'll get 15 callers and you have no pair and you are oop.

And yes, just taking it down is profitable on it's own.

Jay Riall 09-26-2007 11:27 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
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Thread summary- Nielsio mashes buttons, gets lucky, and claims he had a read.

The other 20 times this didn't work out, he instead posted about the planted explosives that brought down the Twin Towers on 2+2

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Countdown to busto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STbD9XMCOho

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wahahaha. yes, because if the government wanted to bring down the twin towers I'm sure they'd use the NY Fire Department to do it.

deaders 09-26-2007 11:32 AM

Re: FT200 A typical Nielsio no-pair situation
 
Im starting to think that nielso and fgators are both gimmicks created by the same person.

hows that for a conspiracy theory?


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