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Before I get out of the thread, I got an e-mail from him yesterday that I just noticed. I'm not generally keen on sharing e-mails but this is weird and I have the feeling he doesn't care anyway. He's addressing a post I made in ATF:

""Since he was already banned anyway, probably to throw a big [censored] you in 2+2's face. I'm sure he's back posting under several dozen new accounts."

classic

and thats exactly why i did it. i'm the only person to ever have 1k+ posts deleted from the DB for pissing off mason malmuth amirite??

you should sell me your 2+2 account imo"

I just wish I could wrap my head around this whole selling of account thing. Is it supposed to be under the table, and then he'll like take it over? If it's supposed to be a secret then why is he posting about it? Mat or Ryan would instantly ban that account, right? This guy is a loon.

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fk degen

2p2 should not negotiate with terrorists imo

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qft. this is going to end in tears/further frustration

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fk degen

2p2 should not negotiate with terrorists imo

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qft. this is going to end in thai hooker tears/misogynistic trip reports

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fk degen

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qft. this is going to end in thai hooker tears/misogynistic trip reports

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So did he rape the chick or what?







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So did he rape the chick or what?

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yeah, he did

somebody dig up the TR please

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So did he rape the chick or what?

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yeah, he did

somebody dig up the TR please

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I tried to dig but I thought it was earth scorched with the thailand thread. I might be remembering incorrectly, was it in a separate thread?




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I tried to dig but I thought it was earth scorched with the thailand thread. I might be remembering incorrectly, was it in a separate thread?



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It might be on his blog. I vaguely recall that TR was copied from the blog.

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I'm gonna be perfectly honest, i'm not a big fan of rapists.

I'll volunteer for the give up my account scame of Degen if we're doing that. Pasty white boys that move to thailand to be accepted don't exactly frighten me. This may be a leak on my part but i'll cross that bridge if and when.




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Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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The fact that he keeps communicating with you tells me that he doesn't have immediate access to the mod forum.

I did talk to him. It's funny how nice he is on the phone. It seems that all he really wants is to be able to participate here, so I made him a deal. I told him to remove his 2+2 sites and stay off the forums until vbulletin launches. I agreed to allow him 3 days as degen 2 or whatever. I told him that if he behaved perfectly those days AND the mods agreed that he deserved the chance, he could continue.

This is what I told him. I can be convinced that this is the wrong move, but our attorney bills are inspiring us to be more lenient in matters like this. I don't see this as being vastly different than Dan Bright, his antics, and subsequent forgiveness. Not to say that degen is as valuable as dan. I just don't think at his core he means any harm.

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Mat,

This is seriously weaksauce. I mean seriously ridiculously unbelievably weaksauce. He probably deserves to be permamegainstaipbanned more than any other poster in 2+2 history. I mean, for [censored]'s sake he bought up multiple domain names to try to spoof 2+2's traffic!

Regards,
--jman220

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If he knew anything about SEO he would know that copying another site's content word for word (buying people's posts) is a Google disaster and a one way ticket to the blacklist. His whole venture would be a waste of time and money.

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The fact that he keeps communicating with you tells me that he doesn't have immediate access to the mod forum.

I did talk to him. It's funny how nice he is on the phone. It seems that all he really wants is to be able to participate here, so I made him a deal. I told him to remove his 2+2 sites and stay off the forums until vbulletin launches. I agreed to allow him 3 days as degen 2 or whatever. I told him that if he behaved perfectly those days AND the mods agreed that he deserved the chance, he could continue.

This is what I told him. I can be convinced that this is the wrong move, but our attorney bills are inspiring us to be more lenient in matters like this. I don't see this as being vastly different than Dan Bright, his antics, and subsequent forgiveness. Not to say that degen is as valuable as dan. I just don't think at his core he means any harm.

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Mat,

This is seriously weaksauce. I mean seriously ridiculously unbelievably weaksauce. He probably deserves to be permamegainstaipbanned more than any other poster in 2+2 history. I mean, for [censored]'s sake he bought up multiple domain names to try to spoof 2+2's traffic!

Regards,
--jman220

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Also, WRT Mason's overall goal for this site to be "high quality," where in that vision does one find allowing an ADMITTED RAPIST to post about his exploits, an acknowledged scammer and flim-flam man. Degen quite possibly represents everything that is bad about gamblers and the seediest side of that lifestyle. I have never had so much as an argument with the man and I say without hesitation, from reading his posts, that he is the single most vile person I have ever come across on 2+2. I would gladly encourage 2+2 to unban all the people I dislike the most, all the worst trolls, before it considered allowing this scumbag to post again.



Too Strong?

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I have never had so much as an argument with the man and I say without hesitation, from reading his posts, that he is the single most vile person I have ever come across on 2+2.

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What about your boy

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...llknifemg3.jpg

?

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I have never had so much as an argument with the man and I say without hesitation, from reading his posts, that he is the single most vile person I have ever come across on 2+2.

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What about your boy

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...llknifemg3.jpg

?

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It should say something that I'll go on record as saying that I'd rather see Snowball or Cyrus made a mod than Degen unbanned.

Edit: Also, I lost that picture when I reformatted, thanks Tuq!

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I have never had so much as an argument with the man and I say without hesitation, from reading his posts, that he is the single most vile person I have ever come across on 2+2.

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What about your boy

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...llknifemg3.jpg

?

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Snowball is vile? Don't tell Kiera, thats her on-the-side boyfriend if she ever decides to cheat on Mat [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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i agree 100% with jman

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Mat,

100% serious question.

Is there any offense that IYO would warrant a user being permabanned? By permabanned I mean that no matter how much begging you would never consider taking them back.

Sneaking up on you and literally stabbing you in the back? Daily DNS attack for a year?

To be frank, I think it's idiotic to even consider considering letting him back.

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Agree with jman as well. I really don't want to have given mia $10k for no reason.

-Bill

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haha i refuse a legitimate 10k offer now you're gonna let him back anyway? puhleeze

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haha i refuse a legitimate 10k offer now you're gonna let him back anyway? puhleeze

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All,
I would just like to again, restate HE IS AN ADMITTED UNREPENTANT RAPIST. He used the 2+2 forums to BRAG about this.

Regards,
--jman220

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TT,

To be clear, I think SNOWBALL is pretty awesome. It's just that jman has some hate for him of which I don't know the origin (and by "don't know the origin" I mean "100% chance it originated in the Politics forum") so I merely like to give him crap about it from time to time.

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Snowball is fine.
Degen is super-sketchy.
I can't believe the two of them are even being compared in the same post.

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pj,

Ugh dude, did you lose an avatar bet or something? Goddamn.

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Snowball is fine.
Degen is super-sketchy.
I can't believe the two of them are even being compared in the same post.

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They're not though. Even I admit they're not comparable, and I intensely dislike Snowball.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

Isn't Torrentmarketing.com Degen's site? There is an iPoker ad on this site that links to an email admin@torrentmarketing.com .

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Hi,

usually I only lurk here, but there are a few things in this thread I want to comment on.

1) I can't fathom how one can even consider unbanning Degen.

2) I don't see anything similar in the cases of Dan Bright case (being far out of line once) and Degen (repeated scumbaggery).

3) I live in Thailand and it is really nice here. Degen/some other dudes from the huge thread might give a different impression, but there is more to it than sex.
(I don't mind the jokes, just wanted to say.)

4) Is Degen really a rapist? I can recall one incident from his blog in which he choked a hooker and bribed his way out. But rape?

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well since you said the mods have to agree, and there is no way the mods will agree, i guess it's fine.

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fk degen

2p2 should not negotiate with terrorists imo

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pokeraddict,

so are all these threats and brags by him bs? like, he can't actually accomplish anything with these websites? fk him then, tuq if you read the old threads on degen this guy should be banned from life. he is the hugest scumbag i have ever met and somehow my opinion of him went even lower after he left the country.

tuq here's an example of the kind of guy he is. one night slider myself and him went out to the strip to go out. he got drunk and started going up to every black woman he could find and kept asking over and over in their face "where's the nearest popeye's? got any fried chicken?"

i never saw him again after that display and i never want to either. dont let this [censored] back.

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tuq here's an example of the kind of guy he is. one night slider myself and him went out to the strip to go out. he got drunk and started going up to every black woman he could find and kept asking over and over in their face "where's the nearest popeye's? got any fried chicken?"


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so basically he's like a racist version of sublime.

(i keed, i like mike... but he does the same thing, making wildly inappropriate comments to people)

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nation,

My knowledge of his actions and indiscretions is clearly minuscule compared to yours - I've never met him, am barely aware of all his rakeback BS, and never read the supposed "rape" post/blog thing. So yeah, I'm definitely not qualified to comment and I realize that now, but I think I mentioned that already. And even if I thought I was for whatever reason, the foaming responses of some of the others should be a hint that I'm really not.

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pokeraddict,

so are all these threats and brags by him bs? like, he can't actually accomplish anything with these websites?

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It is extremely unlikely his sites would ever perform well in Google if the content is just scraped off 2+2. Google gives the first site it finds a story or post on original credit for that content. Anyone else is a copycat. It weighs the amount of original content with the copycat stuff to decide how original your site.

For example when I owned RRR I bought my news from Infopowa which is the same service Casinomeister uses. I would rarely show in searches for that content because other sites would almost always get the content up before I would. Since the rest of my site was original I wasn't considered a site scraper. If my site was nothing but those news articles Google would have blacklisted my site or at the very least sandboxed me.

When I owned RRR a PR 5 site copied my FAQ page word for word. I reported them to Google and after a few days their site vanished from Google and stayed gone for about 3 months.

Degen's ripping off 2+2 will not help him get in Google at all, especially if that is all his site has to offer.

BTW admin@torrentmarketing.com is an email Degen used on one of his banned accounts. A red probably needs to let Chuck know there is advertising from Degen on the site.

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I'm pretty sure you're all Degen here in the mod forum by now, well except for maybe me and Ryan. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I'm pretty sure you're all Degen here in the mod forum by now, well except for maybe me and Ryan. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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If someone who I could actually trust to pay ever offered me 10k for my account it would be sold in an instant. Not that I don't like this site and all, but thats a down payment on a decent house where I live. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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jman (or whoever),

"an acknowledged scammer"

What is the story re: Degen scamming people?

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el d,

do you mean the part where he lied about having sold a rakeback site?

or the part where he had a business associate make up a female persona and pretend to be an employee?

or do you mean the part where he entered in to a staking agreement and then refused to hold his end of the bargain?

or maybe the part where he pocketed rakeback money?

or maybe the part where he like, didn't pay the utilities and skipped the country while living with some 2p2ers, or something like that?

oooooor... i'm sure there's more. if you want more, i can come up with more.

c

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el d,

citanulisright

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So, we're switching to Vbulletin tommorrow. Are we really letting this scumbag post again or what?