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underthesky 11-30-2007 05:47 PM

Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK
 
WTF at check-folding the top set? Shove it all day.

Grandezza 11-30-2007 06:35 PM

Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK
 
uhhh where does it say that he's a calling station? he's 33/11/0 over 30 hands. you realize that guy can a have stats like these and not play like a total monkey post flop? when ppl slowplay i find that by the turn theyve usually thrown in a raise. sure he has two pair/set sometimes but i think he has some bad one pair hand most of the times. the ks is a really bad card for a hand like this so if im valubetting its probably around 50% of the pot. i still prefer check folding tho

ChoicestHops 11-30-2007 06:38 PM

Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK
 
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Shove river WTF.

Check/call = terrible. Let him check down 99+ and [censored] like 87 and bet flushes. Brilliant.

Bet $40 = terrible. Let him shove flushes and his calling range for $40 is identical to his calling range for $67, or close enough that the EV of shoving is clearly higher. Again, brillaint.

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Well said. I don't have numbers, but it seems it's an easy push and the best way to maximize EV. I don't even really think about it at the table I don't think.

Wilson Cortez 11-30-2007 06:54 PM

Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK
 
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easy c/f imo
check calling is the worst of bet/calling c/fing and bet folding i think

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i lolled at c/f this.

hotbacon 11-30-2007 06:57 PM

Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK
 
op played it goot

czGLoRy 11-30-2007 06:58 PM

Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK
 
you have ~ a PSB left on the river, with top set. He definitely could have a lower set, or a flush, or some random two pair or something (I dont know.. maybe?)

Anyways, I will have to agree with the "showdown tax" thread, and stick it in here, and let him decide what to do.


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