Re: KK against thinking opponent
 

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b/f > c/f >> c/c >> b/c against this opponent

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Agreed. You're getting owned hardcore if you c/c frequently in this spot.

Re: KK against thinking opponent
 

b/f

dont expect to be called much

Re: KK against thinking opponent
 

Why are we wanting to b/f? what hands that we beat will pay us off?

Re: KK against thinking opponent
 

Pretty much any made hand that doesn't beat us now?

Re: KK against thinking opponent
 

The more I think about it, the more I hate bet-folding this hand. Seriously, he's so rarely calling with worse here unless he's terrible.

Even if we were double barrel bluffing, the As is a legitimate part of our range and even if TJ+ came this far, he's probably not calling the river.

CF is the only thing that makes sense to me

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The more I think about it, the more I hate bet-folding this hand. Seriously, he's so rarely calling with worse here unless he's terrible.

Even if we were double barrel bluffing, the As is a legitimate part of our range and even if TJ+ came this far, he's probably not calling the river.

CF is the only thing that makes sense to me

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u realize any good villain is shoving on you if u check this river

Re: KK against thinking opponent
 

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value bet or c/c, i'm not folding

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what hands do i get value from, and youre not folding to a raise if we bet?

or did you mean youre not c/fing

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obv. not b/c. I prefer b/f to c/c but even c/c is fine here because he has to have AJ/JJ/99/55 to have you beat on the river.

Re: KK against thinking opponent
 

edit: just saw your post above

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The more I think about it, the more I hate bet-folding this hand. Seriously, he's so rarely calling with worse here unless he's terrible.

Even if we were double barrel bluffing, the As is a legitimate part of our range and even if TJ+ came this far, he's probably not calling the river.

CF is the only thing that makes sense to me

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u realize any good villain is shoving on you if u check this river

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Can you name the hands worse than KK that you would bet this river with, and why you would do it? It'd be turning your hand into a bluff 100% of the time, so would that be the goal?

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value bet or c/c, i'm not folding

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what hands do i get value from, and youre not folding to a raise if we bet?

or did you mean youre not c/fing

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obv. not b/c. I prefer b/f to c/c but even c/c is fine here because he has to have AJ/JJ/99/55 to have you beat on the river.

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You don't think he gets this far with some spade draws?