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Pudge714 11-26-2007 10:38 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
FD,
Hand 1 could be fine.
Hand 2 is very standard.
Hand 3 is terrible
Hand 4 is probably fine except he has such a terrible image.
Hand 5 is terrible and can never be good basically.

shipitkthx 11-26-2007 10:50 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
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FD,
Hand 1 is awful
Hand 2 is very marginal at best under normal circumstances but extremely bad after everyone just saw you lose a huge pot and the rail (which the donks on the table are most likely still watching) is screaming "TILLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTT"
Hand 3 is terrible
Hand 4 is probably fine except he has such a terrible image.
Hand 5 is terrible and can never be good basically.

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futuredoc85 11-26-2007 10:54 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
[ QUOTE ]
FD,
Hand 1 could be fine.
Hand 2 is very standard.
Hand 3 is terrible
Hand 4 is probably fine except he has such a terrible image.
Hand 5 is terrible and can never be good basically.

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theres not very many people at all that c/c is good against on that river in hand 1.

Pudge714 11-26-2007 11:05 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
If you think Hand 2 sucks you aren't a good poker player or villian is such a nit he is folding AKo
Hand 1 could be okay with like KK/QQ, although he probably had like KQ high.

flyingmoose 11-26-2007 11:27 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
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If you think Hand 2 sucks you aren't a good poker player or villian is such a nit he is folding AKo


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It's the open with 44 UTG+1 at a near full table that's so thin, not the all-in call (Which I don't think anyone would question).

shipitkthx 11-26-2007 11:40 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
[ QUOTE ]
If you think Hand 2 sucks you aren't a good poker player or villian is such a nit he is folding AKo
Hand 1 could be okay with like KK/QQ, although he probably had like KQ high.

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He had QTo in hand #1, the guy with the flush told everyone that (see hand #3 where he says it - MakiGoto said, "he had QT".) OBV he has to call with 44 once he's raised. But the raise UTG+1 is THIN AT BEST with these stack sizes. Count in the fact that his image is [censored] right now and he's never folding out any pair (which maybe he can fold out 55-88 in a normal spot), and the raise is horrible. If you think raising with 4s here UTG+1 when your folding equity has most likely just plummeted than you "aren't a good poker player."

Pudge714 11-26-2007 11:56 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
Deep in the millions guys will play overly nitty a lot of the shorties should definitely be folding 55-88 here, opening 44 is probably +EV, but I don't feel like doing the math, regardless it isn't a huge mistake.
Edit: Shoving 40k here is +CEV raising and calling the shoves of the 40k stacks is similar enough although it is probably more +CEV since you can win pots postflop and my ranges could be too loose.

futuredoc85 11-27-2007 12:37 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
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If you think Hand 2 sucks you aren't a good poker player or villian is such a nit he is folding AKo
Hand 1 could be okay with like KK/QQ, although he probably had like KQ high.

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QTo

DCJ311 11-27-2007 02:07 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
[ QUOTE ]
FD,
Hand 1 could be fine.
Hand 2 is very standard.
Hand 3 is terrible
Hand 4 is probably fine except he has such a terrible image.
Hand 5 is terrible and can never be good basically.

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Most of these hands look terrible, and I disagree that hand #2 is standard unless these guys are playing super tight. These antes are a little too small to be donking it up preflop in early position, especially in a MTT where getting to the final table is so important.

JSchnett 11-27-2007 02:29 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
brings joy to my heart.


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