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StrictlyStrategy 11-25-2007 03:11 PM

Re: most passive QQ i\'ve played in recent memory...alternatives?
 
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You beat JJ and AK - 22 combinations.

you lose to AA, KK, QQ & TT - 21 combinations.

he isnt folding any hand that beats you to a raise. And your not folding - the action is obviously a call.

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Uh nobody's talking about trying to bluff him off Aces with a call call river-raise line, what about the times he calls a river raise with JJ or occasionally looks him up with AK because of this slightly oddball line. I'm not saying the river is a raise(I don't think it is) but you're looking at it wrong.


--Nobody raises the flop and calls down from there?

DcifrThs 11-25-2007 03:16 PM

Re: most passive QQ i\'ve played in recent memory...alternatives?
 
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You beat JJ and AK - 22 combinations.

you lose to AA, KK, QQ & TT - 21 combinations.

he isnt folding any hand that beats you to a raise. And your not folding - the action is obviously a call.

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Uh nobody's talking about trying to bluff him off Aces with a call call river-raise line, what about the times he calls a river raise with JJ or occasionally looks him up with AK because of this slightly oddball line. I'm not saying the river is a raise(I don't think it is) but you're looking at it wrong.


--Nobody raises the flop and calls down from there?

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if i raise the flop given the read i had on the guy i'd look for a fold somewhere. i don't think JJ/99 3 bet the flop and bet it down. and given that i wanted to see a showdown, i didn't want to put in money and reduce the chances i have the best hand by such a huge degree.

Barron

BK1248 11-25-2007 09:19 PM

Re: most passive QQ i\'ve played in recent memory...alternatives?
 
if it was bob or dcb777 id 7 bet preflop because they've 6 bet me with 22/kq because they got a hard-on for trying to outplay me.

jkamowitz 11-25-2007 09:39 PM

Re: most passive QQ i\'ve played in recent memory...alternatives?
 
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if it was bob or dcb777 id 7 bet preflop because they've 6 bet me with 22/kq because they got a hard-on for trying to outplay me.

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Yeah but you and op are different.

Well with DCB I'm going all in confident he has two unders.

PokerBob 11-25-2007 10:14 PM

Re: most passive QQ i\'ve played in recent memory...alternatives?
 
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--Nobody raises the flop and calls down from there?

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when you take this line, what happens?

stinkypete 11-25-2007 10:46 PM

Re: most passive QQ i\'ve played in recent memory...alternatives?
 
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--Nobody raises the flop and calls down from there?

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when you take this line, what happens?

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oooh ooh I KNOW I KNOW MR BICHLER!!!!! PICK ME!!!!!

DcifrThs 11-25-2007 11:18 PM

Re: most passive QQ i\'ve played in recent memory...alternatives?
 
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if it was bob or dcb777 id 7 bet preflop because they've 6 bet me with 22/kq because they got a hard-on for trying to outplay me.

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i don't think bob thinks i'm like you guys [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

he has never seen me get out of line (except that KQcc hand which was the first ever hand i played against him and we've talked about it a bit lol) and until this hand, i didn't think he was capable of 4 betting 99 preflop against me.

i've been much more hesitant to mix it up vs. bob than vs. jay. i'll gladly toss money around vs. jay and i've shown him i'm capable of it to get him off my back...that bastard [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

anyways, thanks for all your thoughts guys. definitely a learning experience vs. somebody i thought i had pegged (like it will be the first time i see tommy ears go nutso...haven't seen it yet).

Barron

ssmallz 11-25-2007 11:18 PM

Re: RESULTS
 
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Results:

bob raises early i 3 bet QQ he 4 bets i call.

flop is T88 bet call.

turn some blank, bet call.

river some blank, bet call.

bob turns over 99 and i take it.

his body language when he turned over his hand said "ship it" and he was legitimately shocked when i flipped up QQ (i.e. showed up in his face) to which he rapped the table and gave the acknowledging "nice hand" head nod with his headphones on.

Barron

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You played the hand absolutly perfectly. this is why i love the passive line

Thousand_air 11-26-2007 01:15 PM

Re: RESULTS
 
Once again nice hand DcifrTHs. Was very surprised to see QQ still didn't know what ur 3 bet range on the button was after I already 3 bet you 3 times. It was a great flop and turn for my hand.

If I was Dcb777,jkamowitz or BK1248 fold QQ preflop your just gonna get out played too offten to play such a marginal hand against my range.

dcb777 11-26-2007 01:33 PM

Re: RESULTS
 
Okay Bob, you are the best


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