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Triumph36 11-14-2007 04:10 PM

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also, thinking about this some more, given that we lose money on some hands the shortstacker has to increase his range which gets our big money making hands called more often (and increases our equity with our [censored] hands) so it may not be completely correct that we can only anaylze the bottom end of the range and determine if those hands show a profit.

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yeah, this is true. that was the "(maybe a few more hands for meta)" bit at the end of my last post b/c i didn't feel like getting into it.

honestly i think the more interesting question is about deciding when to reraise a shorty when you are not in the bb and there are other normal stacks left to act.

but it's ok, stars will make all tables "deep stacked" (min 50 bbs and max 100) soon. *prays*

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i like the way snrub thinks!

i think normal stacks know it's a marginal spot without huge holdings - that's not a situation i expect to come up too often.

Christophers 11-14-2007 04:16 PM

Re: Something you guys dont do enough
 
Good post.

ImsaKidd 11-14-2007 04:34 PM

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also, thinking about this some more, given that we lose money on some hands the shortstacker has to increase his range which gets our big money making hands called more often (and increases our equity with our [censored] hands) so it may not be completely correct that we can only anaylze the bottom end of the range and determine if those hands show a profit.

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Good luck w/ analyzing this spot using game theory. You will go through a bazillion iterations of ranges, it sucks ass.

I spent prolly 2 hours on it b4 giving up.

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2 hours LOL

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This was for one very specific spot, BB vs a btn who opens xx%.

philipsaurus 11-14-2007 05:43 PM

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thanks for posting this. didnt realize how the math worked out. good stuff.

schwza 11-15-2007 01:21 PM

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also, thinking about this some more, given that we lose money on some hands the shortstacker has to increase his range which gets our big money making hands called more often (and increases our equity with our [censored] hands) so it may not be completely correct that we can only anaylze the bottom end of the range and determine if those hands show a profit.

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Good luck w/ analyzing this spot using game theory. You will go through a bazillion iterations of ranges, it sucks ass.

I spent prolly 2 hours on it b4 giving up.

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2 hours LOL

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This was for one very specific spot, BB vs a btn who opens xx%.

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wow, poker must be a very intellectually rewarding experience for you. all those complexities!

iceman5 11-15-2007 02:02 PM

Re: Something you guys dont do enough
 
There arent enough regular shortstacker who steal raise 40% for any of this to matter.

Also, lets not forget that the shortstacker in the blind can shove in over YOUR button raise with the same frequency and you are the one in the bad spot.

catcher193 11-15-2007 05:30 PM

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I probably resteal too much if anything.

g-p 11-15-2007 05:38 PM

Re: Something you guys dont do enough
 
good job posting all this skier


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