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Arnold_O 11-04-2007 04:25 PM

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Why is everyone ranking West Virginia over Missouri? The only top 25 team they have beaten is Rutgers (ranked 25 at the time). The Mountaineers' one loss to South Florida is not looking as good now.



[/ QUOTE ]an hour after i ranked west virginia ahead of missouri i took a look at it and started questioning it. i remember saying to myself that they should really be tied at this point. both are solid

Gregatron 11-04-2007 04:29 PM

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I don't think WV is that good. I would put them behind BC, and certainly behind Mizzou.

Semtex 11-04-2007 05:40 PM

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why exactly does ASU drop below BC in the BCS after losing to oregon while BC lost to FSU?

iggymcfly 11-04-2007 05:44 PM

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Because the voters are stupid and because BC was ranked higher last week.

agent_fish 11-04-2007 05:56 PM

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

TomCollins 11-04-2007 05:59 PM

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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The difference maker is also that WV had injuries in their loss too. Sagarin Predictor has the difference as about 3.5 points.

iron81 11-04-2007 06:02 PM

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1. Ohio State (10-0) 1 2823 0.9993 1 1493 0.9953 1 99 0.990 0.9949 1
2. LSU (8-1) 2 2640 0.9345 2 1393 0.9287 2 96 0.960 0.9411 3
3. Oregon (8-1) 3 2590 0.9168 3 1376 0.9173 3 92 0.920 0.9180 5
4. Kansas (9-0) 5 2322 0.8219 5 1241 0.8273 4 88 0.880 0.8431 8
5. Oklahoma (8-1) 4 2518 0.8913 4 1330 0.8867 7 74 0.740 0.8393 6
6. Missouri (8-1) 7 2111 0.7473 7 1143 0.7620 8 72 0.720 0.7431 9
7. West Virginia (7-1) 6 2291 0.8110 6 1222 0.8147 12 60 0.600 0.7419 7
8. Boston College (8-1) 8 1836 0.6499 8 951 0.6340 6 81 0.810 0.6980 2
9. Arizona State (8-1) 9 1720 0.6088 9 946 0.6307 5 84 0.840 0.6932 4
10. Georgia (7-2) 11 1651 0.5844 10 927 0.6180 9 62 0.620 0.6075 10
11. Virginia Tech (7-2) 13 1500 0.5310 11 829 0.5527 10 61 0.610 0.5645 11
12. Michigan (8-2) 15 1332 0.4715 13 770 0.5133 13 49 0.490 0.4916 12
13. Connecticut (8-1) 16 1137 0.4025 16 568 0.3787 10 61 0.610 0.4637 13
14. Texas (8-2) 12 1540 0.5451 14 757 0.5047 18 27 0.270 0.4399 15
15. Florida (6-3) 17 1079 0.3819 18 529 0.3527 15 47 0.470 0.4015 20
16. Hawaii (8-0) 10 1677 0.5936 12 807 0.5380 NR 0 0.000 0.3772 14
17. USC (7-2) 14 1404 0.4970 15 706 0.4707 23 16 0.160 0.3759 19
18. Auburn (7-3) 18 975 0.3451 17 551 0.3673 17 28 0.280 0.3308 16
19. Virginia (8-2) 21 486 0.1720 21 259 0.1727 14 48 0.480 0.2749 23
20. Boise State (8-1) 19 747 0.2644 19 368 0.2453 22 19 0.190 0.2333 22
21. Clemson (7-2) 20 493 0.1745 20 318 0.2120 16 30 0.300 0.2288 25
22. Alabama (6-3) 22 437 0.1547 23 174 0.1160 20 23 0.230 0.1669 17
23. Penn State (7-3) 26 178 0.0630 25 105 0.0700 19 24 0.240 0.1243 NR
24. Tennessee (6-3) 24 251 0.0888 24 114 0.0760 24 15 0.150 0.1049 NR
25. Kentucky (6-3) 23 288 0.1019 22 197 0.1313 26 4 0.040 0.0911 NR </pre><hr />

agent_fish 11-04-2007 06:10 PM

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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The difference maker is also that WV had injuries in their loss too. Sagarin Predictor has the difference as about 3.5 points.

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Yeah, and it also has MU as a four point dog to KU. Would you lay the points in that game?

mutigers5591 11-04-2007 06:18 PM

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missouri lost pig brown though...defensive captain is out for the season honestly that might really hurt them vs kansas/oklahoma

TomCollins 11-04-2007 06:41 PM

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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The difference maker is also that WV had injuries in their loss too. Sagarin Predictor has the difference as about 3.5 points.

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Yeah, and it also has MU as a four point dog to KU. Would you lay the points in that game?

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Probably Kansas.


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