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Getting it in here multiway os obvs really bad.

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it's not a big secret, jimm. Cmyr is bbbooo.

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

I like a repop pre to ~300 and if UTG+1 shortie shoves and button calls behind you can pot it, calling is fina as well though (with the UTG limper etc.). flop I think is a c/f actually.

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i'll tell you guys what, this hand has some sort of value in different ways. if its early in the session and you plan on playing for a while, then you can use this hand for a motivation play to show what your willing to go off with. i think if your going to play the hand.......then you got to go all the way.........or fold. one or the other.

i know for a fact that bennyamine would go off with this hand 24/7 and he's considered one of the best, so would hansen.

but then again, they are also the type that you see sitting there "sitting out" and you point your mouse at theyre seat and it shows their name with a "0" underneath it.

not saying its wrong, it just depends on your style and what you are trying to acomplish in the over all picture of the session.

i think guys like larslusak possibly dont go off with this hand because i never see the guy sitting on "0" yet he is also the one who is always sitting at the 300/600 ready to go. you never hear about him with money problems.

this hand is close. this hand is also one of those that you can find yourself in very bad shape with not much invested from the get go.

play at your own risk tolerance.

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are you some sort of awesome troll account?

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

A 3bet here would make much more sense if we were in position. If we get multiple callers it'll be hard to cbet the flops we totally miss, and if UTG1 or the button /does/ have aces we've got a really bad hand for it.

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The problem I see with a c/r is that UTG for sure is going to be checking alot of his strong hands to the PFR, and even the PFR himself may check to the button (okay not that often, but it isn't impossible) and so I can't read too too much into those checks. I sort of like the weak-lead line, since if I get a raise and a call I can fold but if I get action in one spot I can commit or bet any turn.

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Agreed.

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I think the only other line that hasn't been discussed is c/c the flop and pot any turn if it's hu... this is getting a bit fancy, though.

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The check-call suffers from the same problems as leading out. You might get some callers that you don't want, like the ace high flush or top pair or straight draw with a ten.

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Getting it in here multiway os obvs really bad.

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If you were to c/r the button and then it becomes multiway that is obviously probably bad.

However, if you c/r what are the actually chances that the UTG or UTG+1 ride along or fold? I haven't done the maths, but aren't the chances of them having a bad hand (for you) fairly slim? (And would the shortstack really be giving away free cards on the drawey flop?)

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Cymr, I'm sure I saw this hand go down. It was on iPoker, wasn't it?
Can't remember who had what - you're not GothicLolita, are you?

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i'm actually boycotting ipoker until they stop sending me wire transfers in euros and making me pay the [censored] exchange. and no, I'm def. not GothicLolita.

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Hahahaha. GothicLolita seems one of the best iPoker PLO players, though yesterday I saw him stack off in position after heavy multiway action holding AA73 with the 7-high flush draw on a flop very much like this.

So what network was this, then?

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Gothic Lolita is terrible imo