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What would the repercussions be?


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We would have a president who is pro-war, professes to be a devout Christian, has been proven to be inept in effecting health care reform, and appears to be arrogant without having ever once accomplished anything. What are you worried about? I fully expect everybody who supported Jr. to be her ardent supporter. In fact, if we could get her to dress in dark men's suits and red ties, I doubt if anybody would notice there had been an election.

Always looking on the bright side,

Mack of Sunnybrook Farm

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My predictions:

-You will see evangelizing by Republicans and Conservatives like never before. Both will be so appalled that they will take political activism to a new level.

-Conservatives may feel so let down by the Republicans being unable to defeat Hillary that they may split and form a new political party. The new political party would doubtless draw supporters from both parties, depending on the platform formulated. This would be the end of the Republicans, possibly the Democrats as well, and supplant the present two party system with a different one.

- There would be endless investigations by Congress. The Democrats will undoubtedly loose control of one or more legislative bodies. The political gridlock will make the present political gridlock look like Mr. Rogers neighborhood.

- Bushhate (TM) will be replaced in the left leaning media by Hillarylove (TM) as the mantra to dominate the news 24/7/365. Meanwhile, the conservative media will incorporate Hillaryhate (TM) as the alternative choice.

- Government will grow, or try to grow exponentially more than Bush has even imagined. The economy will suffer, the misery index will be reborn. People will really internalize the fact that government is not their friend. Government expansion will happen in the face of vehement resistance from people of all political stripes.

- In short, the political apparatus of our civilization would become more disfunctional than it already is and everyone will be sorry.

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Her presidency will/would depend a lot on how Congressional elections turn out. If the Republicans have control of one of the Senate and/or House we're likely to see uber gridlock IMO. If the Democrats get control of both the Senate/House she'll be able to enact more of what she wants to do. If she didn't have the husband she has, she wouldn't stand a chance of being elected.

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Good point. One key to Hillary getting the agenda she wishes to impose on all is having a congress that is in her pocket. Whatever legitimate legislation, and the fluffy stuff she has up her sleeve, she wishes to enact may be rubber-stamped by a bamboozled congress. If however not all fall in line or congress is divided a more compromising legislative agenda may be in order.

But to be more specific, would Hillary do anything to help clean up the mess of say Social Security? Or revamp the odious bureaucratic tax code? She will push hard for her pet agendas outlined in the campaign, but those almost always fail to live up to the hype no matter which politican is promoting them.

-Zeno

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As far as Social Security, I think the baby bond amended to private 401ks is actually Hillary's way to get SS reform in the back door. Social Security is the ultimate sacred cow that politicians in Congress don't want to talk about. I remember watching CSPAN in yesteryear when Mitchell was the majority leader in the Senate and he basically tricked a Republican into stating that he would change SS. After the Republican fell into the trap, Mitchell had a big smile on his face stating how he had always admired the Senators courage and it took courage to propose SS reform. The Republican Senator stated that in no way, no how (loudly at that) was he proposing any kind of change in SS. Congress doesn't want to touch it and take on SS reform directly.

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In the end, all we have to do is not vote for these people. It is really that simple.

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I disagree in a subtle, but meaningful way. You not only have to "not vote for these people," but you also have to vote for someone else. If all you do is not show up (i.e. not-vote) you just cede more power to those who do.

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It would be the defining moment when the US started down the road to a pseudo socialist state, very similiar to what exists all over Western Europe.

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What would the repercussions be?

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More protection for the environment.
Some form of Universal Health care.
Lower taxes for the middle class.
More emphasis on alternative and renewable energy.
Increased fuel efficiency by car makers.
Repeal of some tax breaks for big oil and the rich.
More funds for stem cell research.
Maybe the appointment of pro-choice Supreme Court Justices.
Support for reasonable gun control.

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No comment except you know that a political system is rotten to the core when a son and wife of former presidents succeed their fathers and husbands.

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i dunno about that...it seems to say more for the american people's love of a monarchy than the rotten-ness of a political system.

it would say far more about its rottenness if all of a sudden bush was president for a 3rd term abolishing term limits or something like that...

i see what you're saying though, i just don't think "rotten" is the word i'd chooose.

maybe self aggrandizing or shameless??

Barron

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Its hard to say really what kind of agenda she will pursue
in Iraq and domestically, since her statements and congress votes are driven by political calculus instead of true belief. Why did she vote for the war resolution? "If we go in there and find WMD's and pull off this nation building thing in Iraq, its over for me to be president if I vote no.
If the war becomes a obvious mistake, I can still move to the antiwar camp as time passes and events unfold".

The same thing applies now as she campaigns. If she actually attains the highest office, then she might really pursue her ideology. I'm not as worried as some about her expanding government a great deal like Bush has, I mean how much more can the fed gov eat up our GDP/pile on debt before Us treasury bond rates start to go up putting an end to that nonsense.

What would suck with pres Clinton is she would not deal with whether we should raise Social Security taxes, cut benefits NOW before the necessary changes become necessarily much more drastic later. LOL actually no one except Paul would deal with that.

Whatching all the neocons, Bush supporters squirm would be great. America's response to your time in the sun: President Hillary Clinton

well done.... well done....

Re: The Queen Bee Wins the White House: It is almost a Lock
 

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In the end, all we have to do is not vote for these people. It is really that simple.

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I disagree in a subtle, but meaningful way. You not only have to "not vote for these people," but you also have to vote for someone else. If all you do is not show up (i.e. not-vote) you just cede more power to those who do.

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Agreed. I meant "vote for someone else". Good catch. I'm not one of those who thinks you should not vote and that voting is a worthless exercise. And that's why in the end I blame the voters for all our problems.

natedogg