Re: floppin top 2 deep
 

Raise/call is first thing that comes to mind.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

17,820 games 0.031 secs 574,838 games/sec

Board: Qs Jc 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.964% 36.11% 10.86% 6434 1935.00 { QhJh }
Hand 1: 53.036% 42.18% 10.86% 7516 1935.00 { JJ, 44, AsKs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, KsJs, KsTs, QJs, JsTs, Ts9s, QJo }

And the numbers only support calling a shove.

Re: floppin top 2 deep
 

aislephive, this assumes that he will play all of those hands this way 100% of the time. I would argue he is much more likely to play the stronger hands this way than the drawing hands.

The numbers support that we can make a very marginal raise/call.... doesn't mean it's the best play.

For instance if we had ATo and made the initial raise to 600 or whatever, calling would be correct, doesn't mean the overall play is correct.

Re: floppin top 2 deep
 

so u never raise the flop with anything but a set to a lead for like 175bb'ss .

Re: floppin top 2 deep
 

This decision would be more interesting with red aces. Even I snap call QJ.

Re: floppin top 2 deep
 

The fact that this thread has generated so much discussion makes my head hurt.

Re: floppin top 2 deep
 

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lol i just wanna know who welshchip is.... SOMEONE TELL ME PLZ