Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

The old way was fine. It was never debated. I bet they just go back to the way it was.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

Thank God someone started this thread.

It's completely ridiculous. Change the rule. Only players on the field can call timeout. Problem solved.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

1. Change the rule that allows the coach to call the TO. Make one of the players do it.

2. Give the refs a judgment call, similar to when a batter tries to step out of the box right as the pitcher begins his motion. If the ref rules that the T.O. was called right as, or only a split-second before, the ball was snapped, he can ignore the T.O. and let the play go.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

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Who cares?

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Wait till Tom Coughlin does this to David Akers and he misses second.
I promise you'll care.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

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I don't think it's unethical, cheap, douchey or effective. However, it should still be banned.

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I don't understand how giving the kicker a practice shot would hurt him in any way, but results-oriented geniuses have decided that it's good strategy because it worked twice. I can't wait until it backfires on someone, I bet some moran in the media will say that that coach isn't as smart as Mike Shanahan because he called the timeout at the wrong time.

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

Maybe if an offense lined up with more than a few seconds left on the play clock they could either

a) get the snap off before the timeout was called
b) get the coach to call a timeout without snapping the ball by the center lifting his head like he normally would

Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
 

I think it's effectiveness comes from the kicker thinking he won the game for a few seconds of celebration. Then he has to regroup, put his gameface back on, and do it again.

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Exactly.

Of course, the thing is, I don't think it confers an advantage, and it's just stupid to watch.

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Ask Lane Kiffin, Mike Shanahan, Romeo Crennel, Sebastian Janikowski, Jason Elam, and Phil Dawson about that.

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2. Give the refs a judgment call, similar to when a batter tries to step out of the box right as the pitcher begins his motion. If the ref rules that the T.O. was called right as, or only a split-second before, the ball was snapped, he can ignore the T.O. and let the play go.

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Giving that type of power to the refs is probably not the best way to go. It will either be too easy for the ref to mess up and take away a team's ability to call a time out. Or it will be really weak and pointless because a coach can make an excuse for needing the time out(no coach should ever have to explain his time out to a ref before hand)

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Yep this is exactly how I feel. I think its awesome and I love that coaches do it, but it should definitely be banned because it sucks for the game overall and I'm even more worried about the future ridiculous crap that this could lead to. What happens when the coach has all 3 timeouts left?

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You can't call two timeouts in a row.