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*TT* 10-07-2007 03:01 PM

Re: Difference between your Online and B&M game?
 
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I play 50NL online and 300NL live, and while I "think" i am a better player online, my win rate is much better live. For me, I think the games are much softer live, (at my stakes) I usually can just go bear hunting and know I will get paid off on my good hands. Online, I feel people pay attention more and use more complex betting.

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Sammy - you might consider changing your live win rate statement to "perceieved live win rate". If your the average online pro who splits his time between live and online then your online winrate will converge <u>years</u> before your live win rate does.

El_Timon 10-08-2007 03:39 PM

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I have found that online I tend to get distracted more and focus less (2+2, porn, news, ect). When I play live, I am in a cardroom, there is nothing to do EXCEPT pay attention to the game and chat up the other players. I really feel that my live success is due to not only the weaker players, but I just flat play better.

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QFT. I barely break even at 25NL but I have a 5BB/hr winrate at live poker (not great, but good enough to get some extra bucks). The games are just so much softer and for me it's also easier to focus (iPod is a must).

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FWIW, I also do not use PT or PTHUD. I don't like the idea of a database doing all my work for me and I feel it's borderline cheating. These are tools not available to me live, therefore I don't want to become dependant on reading my opp as 24/8 instead of paing attention to each person at the table.

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If you say you can't focus when playing online then you have to have PT and HUD. If I didn't have them I'd be a losing player online. I find no conflict between using them and getting reads on live poker.

rakes.a.beach 10-08-2007 06:21 PM

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.25-.50NL online has players than 2-3 live.

luckyjimm 10-09-2007 09:13 AM

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If I could play 500 hands/hr with live players with infinite money I would make $1500/hr easily.

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But why would you need to... DUCY?

PokerintheI 10-09-2007 01:56 PM

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Also keep in mind there isn't a single online room that thinks using a HUD/poker tracker is cheating, so why should you?

Sorry to get off topic, its just that this is such a commonly misunderstood concept by live players who play online as well.

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I don't disagree with your point regarding PT and HUD, but I know that whichever network includes PlayersOnly, views PT and HUD as cheating and does not allow them.

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Now, to keep this topical, the biggest difference between my online game and my live game is that online my stats are something like 28/16/4(primarily 6-max). Which puts me in the PT category of Ultra-Aggressor. I'm not saying this is optimal play, but thats how it is.

Live I would put myself closer to 40/20/3. Solidly in LAG territory. Primarily because in the games I'm playing, 1/2 or 2/5 NL, there is almost always 4-8 people seeing the flop unless it's raised to 8-10x BB. It results in a bit more variance but I'm right around 8-10 bb/hr vs about 7 online.

I'm willing to call some bigger raises preflop with suited connectors and smaller pairs it Mr. Rock is raising because he/she is pretty much guaranteed to put the rest of their stack in the middle with any overpair or TPTK.


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