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jaydub 09-19-2007 01:26 AM

Re: How much do you think the top producers are worth? i.e. Timbaland.
 
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Well, The Neptunes (Pharrell and Chad Hugo), are worth like $150 mil.

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Link, pls.

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Net worth, ...is being discussed.


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I quoted you, see? You implicitly supported the $150mm assertion. Stop backpedaling and/or produce evidence thereof, or of some other total.

I am talking Net Worth. You keep confusing yourself because you don't have a clue on the topic.

Your loc: is very telling, I should have noted that before. Keep avoiding any attempt to show *Net Worth*!

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GoogleTard!

And yes
wiki does have the line about 155mm which you failed to comprehend:

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They are the fifth richest hip hop entertainers, having a net worth estimate of $155 Million.


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And it even references a previously posted link, go figure.

I agree with szw, this is absolutely retarded.

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Francis_MH 09-19-2007 01:27 AM

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I think it also depends on if they own their own label/ run a label or not. For example, Lil' Jon is independent so he sees a good % of the sales, plus he gets alot for individual beats.

Eminem, during his height, was pulling in 30-40 mil a year, but that was from sales and touring, and he was given shady records. He's got so much money he doesn't charge for beats.

NajdorfDefense 09-19-2007 01:34 AM

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Anyone have some guesses about the net worth of him and other producers?

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http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/15/hip-hop...thisSpeed=15000

'No. 9
Pharrell Williams
$17 million

Hip-hop's new Quincy Jones. A prolific producer, he is half of the ultra-successful production team The Neptunes,...'

Let's assume last month's Forbes is fairly accurate.

PW has only been a 'top producer' for 6-8 years or so.
$17mm is all of his pretax income is ~ $8mm take-home.
Let's conservatively assume he only spends $4mm of that [although we know he has bought some very expensive houses, etc which would eat up far more] but it's a fair assumption.

He invests the other half at 8%. And let's also assume he's made this amount of money, his career max so far, every year since 2000 - which we know is not true.

That comes to under $40mm. You can tweak the assumptions, but it's the right ballpark.
Now, is BBC worth a lot? Doubtful at this point.
'Like A Bathing Ape, Billionaire Boys Club clothing and Ice Cream footwear are often counterfeited.

The brand suffered many setbacks after its original conception after disputes between Pharrell Williams and Reebok. Reebok was originally set to release the clothing line alongside the Ice Cream sneaker line. Although the sneakers made it, the clothing line was postponed and all projects came to an end in late 2004/early 2005. It was at the very end of 2005 when the brand was finally launched ...' ~ wiki.

So, yeah, $35/45mm or whatever is *very* impressive for a 34-yr old producer, absolutely. Will it go higher and higher if he stays on top? Definitely.

Schwarzenegger is estimated to be worth $100mm. Fidel Castro by Forbes at $150mm by comparison.

Gospy 09-19-2007 02:54 AM

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I don't remember where, but I read it somewhere, Wiki says 155 mil.

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No, it doesn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharrell_Williams

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Yea it does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_neptunes

Then if you look back at my original reply you will see that I said the Neptunes are worth ~$150 mil.

PokerAmateur4 09-19-2007 03:13 AM

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I looked it up on yahoo answers for you.

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a whole hell of a lot im sure.

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[/ QUOTE ]Haha thanks Ed. I saw that after googling, then I remembered the rest of the internet is stupid so I posted on 2+2.

El Diablo 09-19-2007 04:33 AM

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ND,

Re: Pharrell:

Easily could have much lower effective tax rate.

Easily could have higher rate of return based on what he's done with his money.

Likely has asset value outside of just the cash he has banked from his income/investments.

Put those things together with your general assumptions and it's not hard to come up with ~$75M for Pharrell's net worth.

clownassassin 09-19-2007 04:46 AM

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The assumption that these guys pay 50% tax on their gross income and that their investments return less than 10% would only be accurate if they file their taxes using TurboTax and manage their portfolios themselves on Etrade.

Even an average tax account would have them at the very least incorporate themselves, and lower their taxable income to as close to $0 as possible.

Chris Daddy Cool 09-19-2007 06:26 AM

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I like Timbaland a lot, I think the personality he gives. Scott on the otherhand just seems like he would be the worlds largest douche and a huge pain to deal with. It made me lol when I saw the video of him not getting into a club cause he tried to bring a 20yo girl with him and they all got carded and refused entry.

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From all accounts, he is a huge douchebag. He had a huge falling out with Christina Aguilera after making some ridiculous demands when she wanted him to work on Back to Basics.

Also, he has beef with Timbaland. In "Give It To Me" Timbaland raps:

I'm a real producer you're just a piano man
I get half a mil for my beats you get a couple grand.

PoppinFresh 09-19-2007 06:39 AM

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yeah serious lol @ pharell paying 50% in income tax

Daddy Warbucks 09-19-2007 07:00 AM

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That's why,

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2...tstorchvo2.jpg

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...ageous_fortune

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Wow, I totally thought this was a joke post.

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Did you happen to get to this point?

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He's also working on an album for Brooke Hogan, Hulk's daughter, which will be the first release from Storch's new label, Tuff Jew.

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