Re: Folding Queens preflop???
 

I've been disagreeing with AP a lot lately but he is absolutely right here -- this is KK+ the vast majority of the time.

Why?

Because so many players like, apparently, most of this board say "Boah he'd never do that with a big hand! INSTA-Call!" right before they say "Oh, [censored]."

Re: Folding Queens preflop???
 

i mean fair enough, but can't most competent players see heros 3-bet as weak and re-raise with a much larger handbase, knowing hero can't call with much. . . i guess if someones calling a 3 bet over they are calling a push as well so might as well push- it just seems to me if hes a good player 6 handed he can make this play with a wider handbase

Re: Folding Queens preflop???
 

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i mean fair enough, but can't most competent players see heros 3-bet as weak and re-raise with a much larger handbase, knowing hero can't call with much. . . i guess if someones calling a 3 bet over they are calling a push as well so might as well push- it just seems to me if hes a good player 6 handed he can make this play with a wider handbase

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Nobody "good" 4 bets all in here with a wide range 160bbs deep.

Re: Folding Queens preflop???
 

Villain 4-bet shoved cold 160BB deep. Doing that with TT-JJ is suicidal. Doing it with AA/KK/AK is a bad play, but not nearly as bad as doing it with TT/JJ. If villain is doing this as a squeeze to get HU w/ UTG, he's crazy.

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Because so many players like, apparently, most of this board say "Boah he'd never do that with a big hand! INSTA-Call!" right before they say "Oh, [censored]."

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This is exactly right.

QQ is an easy fold here.