Re: I was told I played it really well 1/2 commerce 4 handed
 

check call turn then check raise river seems to be fine.
math works out, so you save or gain extra bet in either situational result.
dont raise turns here, maybe in NL but still the texture makes it kind of unneeded

Re: I was told I played it really well 1/2 commerce 4 handed
 

i think the river c/r idea is pretty bad, b/c you're all assuming he's calling the river raise which would make the play probably slightly +EV, but he can probably fold in this spot making the play bad b/c he only calls/raises with the best of it.

Re: I was told I played it really well 1/2 commerce 4 handed
 

I think the turn is more interesting than people are giving credit...
If im playing a steaming LAG, this is a PERFECT spot to c/r on average, because I expect to get 3-bet bluffed (and unfortunatly p0wned) very frequetnly...
I also expect extrmly light call downs (A hi?) because of the amount of draws here.

A key variable is how 2 barelly he is... Because if hes betting hands like KJ and AJ on the turn, then youd prefer to charge him now , rather than let him see the river cheap.
If he doesnt, then his range is pretty strong once he bets the turn, and a c/r would be pretty bad.

I also like to get any opportunity I can to shove bets down steaming players throats, to put them on harder tilt.. If ever the situation is close, I always err on the side of agression.

River is an easy c/r imo..

Re: I was told I played it really well 1/2 commerce 4 handed
 

Would it be fair to say that hero is essentially charging himself to draw on the turn? Meh.

I'd be worried that villain is trying to take a free showdown with his turn threebarrel. b/c river.

Re: I was told I played it really well 1/2 commerce 4 handed
 

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i think the river c/r idea is pretty bad, b/c you're all assuming he's calling the river raise which would make the play probably slightly +EV, but he can probably fold in this spot making the play bad b/c he only calls/raises with the best of it.

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this pot is huge and our line is weird. he calls plenty.

Re: I was told I played it really well 1/2 commerce 4 handed
 

i would checkraise