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Kaj 04-28-2007 01:55 PM

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6 threads related to alternative forms of society (AC/AS) are locked and all traffic moved here ... 3 of the threads locked had over 145 posts ... this thread has 29 total.

Can we admit that having one thread on this subject is a bit restricting and preventing posters from free discussion as was already naturally occurring without this consolidation?

ianlippert 04-28-2007 02:34 PM

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This is basically the situation in the current European Union. Tax regimes etc. aren't standardized and people have the right to move to whatever country they want (except in Eastern EU, but they will soon have as well).



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Thats what I was thinking about. How is that working out for them? I dont read much about EU. It seems like the Euro was a move away from a free market money system, but im not familiar with who controls that either. Anyone have any info?

hmkpoker 04-28-2007 02:44 PM

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If you have a hard time believing how AC would be feasible, just imagine the federal government was abandoned. You would then have 52 states competing for tax payers money.

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This is basically the situation in the current European Union. Tax regimes etc. aren't standardized and people have the right to move to whatever country they want (except in Eastern EU, but they will soon have as well).

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An EU-style confederacy implemented in the US in lieu of the federal government would be frickin' awesome. Huge leap forward.

Nielsio 04-28-2007 03:28 PM

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If you have a hard time believing how AC would be feasible, just imagine the federal government was abandoned. You would then have 52 states competing for tax payers money.

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This is basically the situation in the current European Union. Tax regimes etc. aren't standardized and people have the right to move to whatever country they want (except in Eastern EU, but they will soon have as well).

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An EU-style confederacy implemented in the US in lieu of the federal government would be frickin' awesome. Huge leap forward.

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In other news: the EU is going towards US style federal government.

Arnfinn Madsen 04-28-2007 03:30 PM

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This is basically the situation in the current European Union. Tax regimes etc. aren't standardized and people have the right to move to whatever country they want (except in Eastern EU, but they will soon have as well).



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Thats what I was thinking about. How is that working out for them? I dont read much about EU. It seems like the Euro was a move away from a free market money system, but im not familiar with who controls that either. Anyone have any info?

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The effects so far has been that the poorest countries have very business friendly politics wrt to corporate tax etc. etc.. However, it is not enough to make those countries more attractive for business than most of the western countries. So the migration stream goes from low-tax to high-tax countries since that's where you find the jobs. But it doesn't really prove anything since the countries are so totally different in every way, so level of taxation is only one factor. It doesn't seem to work much in the sense of countries learning from eachother, but it seems to have had an eye opener effect on the governments in some countries that they have to improve in order to manage to maintain their population. The numbers are not well documented since they keep citizenship, but Poland seems to have lost somewhere between 5 and 10% of their population during the last few years. Also Ireland's population has risen somewhere between 10 and 20% due to immigration, so the migration streams are relatively large. The difference in offered quality of life, chance to find job etc. is so different between countries that you can't really assign the migration streams for the next at least 10 years as a result of which government that has the most attractive policy for people currently.

AlexM 04-28-2007 04:01 PM

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If you have a hard time believing how AC would be feasible, just imagine the federal government was abandoned. You would then have 52 states competing for tax payers money.

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This is basically the situation in the current European Union. Tax regimes etc. aren't standardized and people have the right to move to whatever country they want (except in Eastern EU, but they will soon have as well).

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That would basically be the situation here if the federal government didn't ignore the Constitution. The E.U. is somewhat similar to what the U.S. was 200 years ago. I suspect it will take them a bit longer to get to where we are due to the language barriers though. Then again, the people there appreciate statism a lot more, so it may go faster.

AlexM 04-28-2007 04:03 PM

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6 threads related to alternative forms of society (AC/AS) are locked and all traffic moved here ... 3 of the threads locked had over 145 posts ... this thread has 29 total.

Can we admit that having one thread on this subject is a bit restricting and preventing posters from free discussion as was already naturally occurring without this consolidation?

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Nielsio 04-28-2007 04:54 PM

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This is the official thread for debate and dicussion of Anarcho-Capitalism, and the necessity or lack thereof of a governing state.

Links to Former Anarcho-Capitalist, and discussion of "statism" Threads:

How Would an Acist suggest I act?

Somali Freedom Fighters

ACers on an Island

pvn would be proud.

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Vote please:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&vc=1

ShakeZula06 04-28-2007 04:56 PM

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6 threads related to alternative forms of society (AC/AS) are locked and all traffic moved here ... 3 of the threads locked had over 145 posts ... this thread has 29 total.

Can we admit that having one thread on this subject is a bit restricting and preventing posters from free discussion as was already naturally occurring without this consolidation?

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Even the mods no that, they just don't care. They don't like AC or the posters. They're to good at pointing out their horrible moderation.

Poofler 04-28-2007 07:39 PM

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Haven't been around politics forum much since regime change, but I just checked it out, and this really sucks balls.


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