Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

guy just got flustered/embarrassed/pissed off and tried to muck his hand. hell, i have done stuff equally as dumb. luckily for him his card throwing technique needs work.

good ruling.

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

the whole thing is pretty sick

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

i mean.. in all honesty, i dont see why JC is really upset either about the ruling, i can see being upset about the beat ofc.. i mean yea the guy threw his cards in, but its an all in situation where he was called, and its a TOURNAMENT. if this was a cash game i think it would be different, and in that case his hand should be mucked and there wouldnt be any controversy. but because of the way tournament rules are set up, i think the dealer needs to flip the hand up.

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

this is honestly nothing more than a runner runner bad beat.. You can't fold when your all in in a tournament. Also there is no magical "muck" that if the cards touch its a dead hand. As long as the card are retreivable they are live. Runner runner beats happen in every tournament this is not special.

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

imo he shouldn't even be able to muck. he could slide the cards face down to the dealer and say, "dealer please kill this hand", and it should still be flipped up and live. it's a poker tournament. it is not a cash game. there's a huge difference and the rules are there for a reason and must be followed.

if you don't like the rule that's another issue. imo jc has nothing to complain about.

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

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If you dont wanna play by the rules, dont play.

Next.

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Ecxactly! The rule is that he cannot muck the hand in that situation even if he wants to, so the hand has to stay alive even if he threw the cards to the other end of the casino. Period.

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

what i wanna know is how did villain afford to buy in to the comp, when obv he is that stupid he thinks he is drawing dead. Photoshops welcome (sammy style)

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

How is there any discussion? There is no such thing as a muck when an all-in is called? period. end of.
I don't see how there can be differing view points on this.

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

JC Tran might get more sympathy from me if he had said something about the "dead hand" before he got sucked out on. He wasn't interested in his interpretation of the rules until after he lost. Then, he tried to use his interpretation of the rules to win a pot soembody else's cards had won.

Re: Absolutely heated about JC Tran situation at Foxwoods
 

the guy shoulda shipped JC the pot in exchange for a 1% stake in JC. More equity