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Percula 11-06-2007 10:16 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
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For all those saying to pack it in after some bad beats or dropping X number of BB or buy-ins, really need to take the time to read Ace on the River...

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Yes he does say this but I would bet money that he doesn't always abide by it. I have a hard time beleiving anyone can play their A+ game down 3 buy-ins in 20 minutes also.

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Its not something that you can refer to in absolute terms. But if you are going to play full time and have a good/great game to sit in, you need to mental where with all to play well, or you are giving up a lot of money. Good to great games, 5/10+ games, just don't happen often enough to pass them up.

Frankly I think for myself and many others, this is simply the toughest aspect of the game to learn and master.

chopstick 11-06-2007 10:38 PM

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For all those saying to pack it in after some bad beats or dropping X number of BB or buy-ins, really need to take the time to read Ace on the River...

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Yes he does say this but I would bet money that he doesn't always abide by it. I have a hard time beleiving anyone can play their A+ game down 3 buy-ins in 20 minutes also.

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Then you need to keep playing until you understand that not only can you do it, it should be a milestone for your development as a professional. The first time you do it you'll realize just how much better you are at that point than you are right now, when you don't even think it's possible.

jeffnc 11-06-2007 11:26 PM

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A "buy in" only makes sense for NL. Talking about "3 $100 buy ins" for $3/6 is silly. BB is all that matters. If you're tilting away "buy ins" at $3/6, you're not playing pro and probably shouldn't be considering answering "pro" questions. $100 is basically the minimum you should be sitting at that table with anyway, and if you drop below you should reload (maybe more if there's potential for unlimited river raising.)

The amount of money needed for $3/6 shouldn't be a problem in your pocket, but for NL buy ins that are problematic, can't you simply put chips in the cage of a casino you frequent? Otherwise, bring reserve Traveler's Checks (if they're free) or risk carrying more cash.

Paulie Walnuts 11-07-2007 06:25 AM

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For all those saying to pack it in after some bad beats or dropping X number of BB or buy-ins, really need to take the time to read Ace on the River...

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Yes he does say this but I would bet money that he doesn't always abide by it. I have a hard time beleiving anyone can play their A+ game down 3 buy-ins in 20 minutes also.

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Then you need to keep playing until you understand that not only can you do it, it should be a milestone for your development as a professional. The first time you do it you'll realize just how much better you are at that point than you are right now, when you don't even think it's possible.

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Thank you sir for what sounds like some excellent advice. I will see how I fair next time this situation occcurs and I will be thinking of what you said while it happens. Thanks again.


Also Chopstick did you used to play at bodog 5-10NL and 5-10PLO under the same handle? If you did I used to play with you quite often. My name was mafioso.

Paulie Walnuts 11-07-2007 09:35 PM

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Anyone else have a certain strategy and reasoning they use for NL buy-in management?

veggies 11-08-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
To all the people who say you should just keep your BR at the casino, Wouldn't you want to keep as much of it as you can in a high intrest savings account? Just seems like the rest of your BR that you might not be using at the moment could be making you a little extra money.

PlzHelpMe 11-08-2007 11:53 AM

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i used to play at the bike every day and even the proffesional donkeys had safety deposit boxes or player bank accounts.

Paulie Walnuts 11-08-2007 04:43 PM

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To all the people who say you should just keep your BR at the casino, Wouldn't you want to keep as much of it as you can in a high intrest savings account? Just seems like the rest of your BR that you might not be using at the moment could be making you a little extra money.

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I definitely would never keep my roll at the casinos for one main reason besides it doesn't yield any interest. I have taken a shot in the 5-10 and 10-25 NL games there approximately 10 times and have yet to lose in those games. I can definitely beat thos games I just don't have the roll for it. I would be too tempted to take a shot if I had 30 Gs sitting 5 minutes away from that game.

PocketJokers72 11-08-2007 05:34 PM

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Good to great games, 5/10+ games, just don't happen often enough to pass them up.

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I agree that being able to play A game when stuck is crucial. However, I'm hard pressed to find a 'tough' 5/10NL or higher game. This factor makes it easy to walk when you feel the tilt-monkey on your back.

Commerce 10/20NL is my 'home' game. This may explain the plethora of bad poker players I encounter. YMMV.

Tryptamean 11-08-2007 06:55 PM

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decide how much you 'need' or are willing to lose, or whatever and double it...

http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/...not_enough.htm


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