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Triumph36 11-03-2007 10:43 PM

Re: Regarding players\' point scoring in Hockey
 
Goals should be weighted more than assists - but not always. Assists are more common than goals ldo.

It should just make intuitive sense to anyone who watches or follows hockey. Especially not important are most defenseman's assists, which are often standard passes either on a power play or up ice.

Some league used to only award a single assist on a goal - this seems to make more sense to me. Gretzky was a master of the secondary assist at the end of his career, but he wasn't a +EV player the last year of his career as a result of his goal/assist discrepancy.

Triumph36 11-04-2007 02:15 AM

Re: Regarding players\' point scoring in Hockey
 
btw sunny that link is [censored] incredible

ArcticKnight 11-04-2007 03:21 AM

Re: Regarding players\' point scoring in Hockey
 
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I always thought that the "if the puck deflects off of you accidentally, you get the goal for it" was the most stupid thing in the world

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It's not as stupid as three fielders converging on a shallow fly, and when it falls in the batter gets a hit and nobody gets an error.

Yads 11-05-2007 06:56 PM

Re: Regarding players\' point scoring in Hockey
 
You're forgetting the times, when a player dances around everyone and then feeds another player for an easy tap in at the side of the net. Or when he takes the initial shot and someone pops in a rebound. Also what you guys are missing is dmen who move the puck really well and are good at breakout passes would not get the recognition or credit they deserve. The point system is fine the way it is. As someone had previously mentioned changing the way points are awarded would definitely cause players to pass less, so their stats are bigger and they get bigger contracts.

MicroBob 11-05-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Regarding players\' point scoring in Hockey
 
" changing the way points are awarded would definitely cause players to pass less"


No way.

Yads 11-05-2007 07:18 PM

Re: Regarding players\' point scoring in Hockey
 
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" changing the way points are awarded would definitely cause players to pass less"


No way.

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Guaranteed. I've talked to an ex NHLer who was played for the Flames when they were terrible and he said that players would go for goals to try to get a bigger contract, since that's what they would show on the highlight reels. Obviously on a winning team, it wouldn't be impacted as much, but there are lots of players in the league who are just looking to get the biggest contract they can get. Changing the scoring would only exacerbate this situation.

Equal 11-05-2007 07:24 PM

Re: Regarding players\' point scoring in Hockey
 
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You're forgetting the times, when a player dances around everyone and then feeds another player for an easy tap in at the side of the net. Or when he takes the initial shot and someone pops in a rebound. Also what you guys are missing is dmen who move the puck really well and are good at breakout passes would not get the recognition or credit they deserve. The point system is fine the way it is. As someone had previously mentioned changing the way points are awarded would definitely cause players to pass less, so their stats are bigger and they get bigger contracts.

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Yads has made an incredible cross-ice feed to the correct for an easy tap-in!

There's just too many cases where the guy credited with the first or second assist did the majority of the work such that the point system is the best the way it is currently.

MicroBob 11-05-2007 07:26 PM

Re: Regarding players\' point scoring in Hockey
 
Since they already show the goals on the highlight reels and get a little selfish wanting the glory of the goals in today's game even with assists counting the same in terms of total points then I don't think changing the scoring system is going to be that much more incentive to pass even less.

Players like scoring goals already.

You could change the scoring the other way and count assists as 3 points and goals as 1 point and say that it's an emphasis on setting up your teammates or something....and the players still wouldn't care. They would still want to be the guy to light the red lamp.


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