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Live poker is so boring. I couldn't imagine sitting there and paying attention for 8 hours a day to player's patterns.

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Keys I would not expect the majority of young people to see my point because they seem to have little concept of right from wrong.
They were not raised with morality etc. etc..
It contributes to how they filter everything through thier mindset including poker.
Again I do not aim to put down anyone .But still I expect replies of attitude like yours and many more.

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This is so patently untrue and tired that I can't believe you are serious. I am an educated thirty-something, and I don't think the 18-22 demographic is any more irresponsible than the many generations to come before it.

Your sweeping generalizations are uncalled for. You should get to know a few young people - I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how bright, articulate, and driven most of them are. Just keep an open mind. If you can. And I do mean this personally, because you do not speak for most of the 30+ crowd when you dismiss young people as unprincipled idiots.

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you can't really be that much of a jackass....can you? What a ridiculous attitude

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Ur post just motivates me even more now. I can't thank you enough. I'm very dedicated and serious about that and I think I can avoid the aforementioned pitfalls, hehe. I'll just build my live bankroll now so that I will be ready in case of a slow start when September comes.

Thanks for your comments, big boost there.

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Its not all about playing well tho, U HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS!! There was a group of 4 of us who hung aroung together, we all did well, they made 150 to 300k a year. I was very diciplined up to this point , maybe year and half ago, i never drank at the casino and had good money management. We started hanging out together and my discipline went downhill.


I blew 10k in the 80-160 game at the Borgata, lost maybe 2k each trip to foxwoods playin NL drunk. That was ok and I was stupid at the time but I corrected that, but my friends would go out 600$ dinners and $200 lunches everyday and they thought they were invinceable i guess. So basically 2 of them blew their whole rolls and are in debt/broke, and struggling and the third has problems also and just got a job after making 500k+ in a year and a half.

Another thing they did was play 200-400 because it was the highest game in the place with Stoxtrader and 7 other 2+2ERS, while im in the best 100-200 game in the country with 4-5 people seeing the flop, but they wont play because 2-4 is bigger, eventho u can earn moe in the 1-2. Controlling ur ego is a big part also. Last year and a half I would never play as low as 40-80 but I hit a big downswing and was still very comfortable but went back to grinding 20-40 at foxwoods just to get some wins under my belt. My friends played 150-300 on a 30k bankroll, lost most of it and played a well known 2+2er ( good game selection for ur last dollar) his last 10k heads up 75-150 omaha and went BUSTO. There is nothing wrong with stepping down and grinding it back out, but my friends are embarrassed to play 20-40 , but i think its better than working.

There is a lot more to being a pro than just being good player, taking losses , game selection , money management and i can say if u master these skills mentally u will have a much easier time playing for a living.

My one broke friend is a 2+2er, hes a really nice kid, maybe he will chime in if he sees the thread but he prolly sold his laptop. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Wow post of the year!!!

This post sums up all of the outside factors that need to be controlled. If you can't manage your life with discipline outside of the poker room, invariably at some point inside the room things will go wrong as well!! Great post to read to keep all of us grounded and disciplined. Thanks!

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Keys I would not expect the majority of young people to see my point because they seem to have little concept of right from wrong.
They were not raised with morality etc. etc..
It contributes to how they filter everything through thier mindset including poker.
Again I do not aim to put down anyone .But still I expect replies of attitude like yours and many more.

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This is so patently untrue and tired that I can't believe you are serious. I am an educated thirty-something, and I don't think the 18-22 demographic is any more irresponsible than the many generations to come before it.

Your sweeping generalizations are uncalled for. You should get to know a few young people - I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how bright, articulate, and driven most of them are. Just keep an open mind. If you can. And I do mean this personally, because you do not speak for most of the 30+ crowd when you dismiss young people as unprincipled idiots.

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30 somethings exist on 2p2? Cool. And to the dude who says the younger (Gen Z? Y? I dunno) generation was raised w/o morality and ethics etc. My question is this: Who were the people who raised these freaks and what generation allowed this to happen? Actually that was rhetorical, this thread was about making some bread at 1/2 not a generation battle, take this to EL D's forum or sumtin.
So, it looks as if the canned answer for live 1/2 is 10-20 bucks an hour. Good luck OP.

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I am pretty sure my $30/hr is sustainable long term with a mix of games including the 1/2 200 max, 1/3 200 max, 2/5 200 max, and 4/8 LHE kill and 9/18 LHE half kill games in Northern California.

$20/hr at 1/2 NL 200 max should be sustainable. It at least sounds perfectly reasonable.

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I would definately say 20-30/hr at 1/2 NL is very sustainable. I play the 1/2 300 Max at the venetian on a regular basis and I am far from a superb player with a lot of holes in my game, and I am maintaining 15-20/hr without a problem.

I would say a good player (who should probably move up) could hit close to 50/hr with solid adjustable play.

The biggest thing about NL in vegas is adjustments and game selection. Many of the games change so much and have so many calling/bluffing stations that you have to adjust to every player and stay on top of your game.

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Thank you. I did not intend to start a generation battle there. In fact, I did not know what to expect. I am surprised/pleased to have received so much replies. This is a great community and I will certainly enjoy myself here.

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This is just a sign of immaturity. If these guys ever worked for 10 to 20 an hour to support themselves there is no way they would have blown through that cash. True grinders that keep their roll and save cash, pack lunches and try and chisel for free meals. Guys that eat 200 dollar lunches, blow their rolls on strippers/hookers and fancy cars... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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U can make a decent earn an hour in the game , i dont know maybe 15-20 bux, but then u build ur bankroll up and move higher. I started playin for a living 10-20 limit in 2002 prolly makin about 25 or 30 but then i built up my bankroll and play as high as 150-300/ 200-400. Tstone MBD started at 1-2 NL and now plays as high as 500-1000.

People on this board always think "turning pro" is a dumb decision, but if ur dedicated enuff u can do it. Id say give it a shot, i wouldnt trade my job for anything and have been very successful. Although there are a lot of pitfalls u can fall into, blackjack, partying sportbetting etc... if ur good enuff ( and 5/100bb is) then id say go for it . I know a great NL player earn back to back 30k months in 5-10 and now plays as high as limits as there is.

gl brian

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Are you posting, or texting?

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No kidding. How about if everyone agrees to post replies to this thread in English only?

In all seriousness, folks, there are some decent replies in this thread, but the horrible grammar is hell on the eyes and brain.