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Iron Tigran 10-29-2007 09:42 PM

Re: What to do when a player goes south?
 
If a cop on the side of the road clocks a guy at 70mph in a 65mph zone, and assesses the guy as no real threat and doesn't bother to pull the driver over, it doesn't necessarily mean the offending driver will eventually turn into a murderer, or the city into a lawless land of roaming thugs.

Proportionality is the key. If a very minor offense, tending to be committed by fish who are happy to donate, occurs now and then, I would not fret too much. If it happens too often, then cracking down is proper.

IMHO.

davidlong14 10-30-2007 01:13 PM

Re: What to do when a player goes south?
 
When is it OK to sexually molest little kids? That's how often it's OK to rat-hole...

budblown 10-30-2007 03:12 PM

Re: What to do when a player goes south?
 
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How does somebody going south void a jackpot? Have you seen a jackpot not be paid because of this? Perhaps I shouldn't say this, but I suspect most jackpot voiding rules are simply to keep the lotto-chasers in line. A lot easier and with less argument or aquarium-tapping to say "voids jackpot" than to give the real reasons for things.

But then, I wouldn't put it past some floor to become convinced of their own bull-hooey.

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I have seen a Jackpot get voided due to someone ratholing, I was on the next table and needless to say that people were upset. I don't know the reasoning behind it, but I saw it happen.

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Some casinos look for ways to invalidate jackpots. Nobody in Nevada is likely to get away with this--I really don't see the Gaming Commission agreeing with the casino that someone removing $100 in chips 3 hands ago invalidates any jackpot won on that table while the player is still there. I imagine the Gaming Agent would roll his eyes and politely ask if they REALLY want to proceed down this path.

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It was in LA, not vegas.

budblown 10-30-2007 03:14 PM

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How does somebody going south void a jackpot? Have you seen a jackpot not be paid because of this? Perhaps I shouldn't say this, but I suspect most jackpot voiding rules are simply to keep the lotto-chasers in line. A lot easier and with less argument or aquarium-tapping to say "voids jackpot" than to give the real reasons for things.

But then, I wouldn't put it past some floor to become convinced of their own bull-hooey.

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I have seen a Jackpot get voided due to someone ratholing, I was on the next table and needless to say that people were upset. I don't know the reasoning behind it, but I saw it happen.

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Since I'm in kind of a bitchy mood, I'd like to point out that you haven't seen a jackpot get voided because of someone ratholing. Hearing about it from the next table while people were yelling and likely don't know what they were talking about doesn't count. If you don't know the reason, I don't really believe you can be that confident that it was because of ratholing.

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Well, when I'm in the 5 seat and the floorman is standing less than 2 feet away from me behind the dealer at the next table and says "I'm sorry but this jackpot has been voided due to seat 7 not keeping all his chips on the table" I think that qualifies me as to seeing it happen.

Mr Rick 10-30-2007 04:37 PM

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In a limit game it rarely matters, and if you complain about it you come off as a big nit imo.

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I have seen it done only a few times in my 10/20 LHE game. And each time the guy reached into his pocket to replenish when he got short. I never say anything when I see it happen because it generally is inferior players who do it, and I don't want them to leave.


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