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Billy Bibbit 10-25-2007 08:10 AM

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In 2004 he wasn't just "very good." He was absolutely incredibly amazing, posting the 3rd highest DPAR for a QB in this century and the highest for any QB not named Peyton Manning. Nearly 70% completion percentage yet 8.6 Y/A? 41 TDs to 11 picks and 5123 total yards? We're talking about one of the greatest seasons from a QB ever that only got overshadowed because Peyton Manning had THE greatest season ever.


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Blah blah blah. If Tom Brady puts up Culpepper's 2004 numbers for the rest of the season, he'll be a big disappointment according to Patriots fans.

Seriously though, I remember thinking at the time that Culpepper's season was not all that much worse than Manning's. It's easy to forget how good he was.

Uglyowl 10-29-2007 03:31 AM

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Update through week 8:

QB rating 136.2 (record Manning 121.1)

Att/Comp 198 for 267: 74.2% (pace 396 for 534) (records: Completions 418 Gannon; Comp % 70.55% Ken Anderson)

Yards 2,431 (pace 4,862) (record Marino 5,084)

Touchdowns 30 (pace 60) (record Manning 49)

Lowest Percentage, Passes Had Intercepted 0.75% (record Huard 0.41%; on pace for 3rd all time best season)

Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season 3 (pace 6) (record 6 Manning; Marino)

PokerFink 10-29-2007 04:22 AM

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And for those that are wondering, yes, Brady is on pace to blow the DPAR record out of the water as well.

Vyse 11-11-2007 04:00 PM

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actually, you could use it as the only piece of evidence to determine who the better hitter is, and be correct.

(do you know that eqa just measures hitting, nothing else?)

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Do you know that was my point? That no amount of defensive ability can close the gap? wowurbad.

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and that is a giant difference between baseball analysis and football analysis. in baseball, a huge % of the game comes down to the confrontation between hitter and pitcher, which can be analyzed very effectively. there is nothing that simple to analyze in football, b/c your teammates have a far, far greater effect on your play than in baseball.

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You said absolutely nothing in that paragraph. Congratulations.

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probably the worst thing about the advanced metrics is some peoples inability to understand them, but yet they use them as gospel in inappropriate situations.

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It's a good thing I've never used them as gospel, then. Since the baseball point flew way over your head, I'll do your work for you -- something you're undoubtedly used to -- and spell it out: no differential in teammates would be enough to close an astronomical gap between two players' DPAR / DVOA in any given season. kthxbai

Uglyowl 11-23-2007 11:42 PM

Re: The Official \"Tom Brady re-writes the record books in 2007\" Thread
 
Update through 10 games:

QB rating 134.0 (record Manning 121.1)

Att/Comp 250 for 388: 74.0% (pace 400 for 540) (records: Completions 418 Gannon; Comp % 70.55% Ken Anderson)

Yards 3,059 (pace 4,894) (record Marino 5,084)

Touchdowns 38 (pace 61) (record Manning 49)

Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season 4 (pace 6.4) (record 6 Manning; Marino)

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Also Randy Moss has 16 touchdowns (pace 26) chasing Jerry Rice's 22.

He also has an outside shot at yards 1,052 (pace 1,683) record 1,848 Jerry Rice.

Golden_Rhino 11-23-2007 11:44 PM

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He also has an outside shot at yards 1,052 (pace 1,683) record 1,848 Jerry Rice.

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If he's close with a couple of games to go he'll get it. NE returners will start taking a knee at the 1 to give Brady and Moss a longer field.

SMIGLET 11-24-2007 12:20 AM

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Update through 10 games:

QB rating 134.0 (record Manning 121.1)

Att/Comp 250 for 388: 74.0% (pace 400 for 540) (records: Completions 418 Gannon; Comp % 70.55% Ken Anderson)

Yards 3,059 (pace 4,894) (record Marino 5,084)

Touchdowns 38 (pace 61) (record Manning 49)

Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season 4 (pace 6.4) (record 6 Manning; Marino)

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Also Randy Moss has 16 touchdowns (pace 26) chasing Jerry Rice's 22.

He also has an outside shot at yards 1,052 (pace 1,683) record 1,848 Jerry Rice.

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all will prob be broken except for completions i say

Kneel B4 Zod 11-24-2007 12:57 AM

Re: The Official \"Tom Brady re-writes the record books in 2007\" Thread
 
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Update through 10 games:

QB rating 134.0 (record Manning 121.1)

Att/Comp 250 for 388: 74.0% (pace 400 for 540) (records: Completions 418 Gannon; Comp % 70.55% Ken Anderson)

Yards 3,059 (pace 4,894) (record Marino 5,084)

Touchdowns 38 (pace 61) (record Manning 49)

Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season 4 (pace 6.4) (record 6 Manning; Marino)

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Also Randy Moss has 16 touchdowns (pace 26) chasing Jerry Rice's 22.

He also has an outside shot at yards 1,052 (pace 1,683) record 1,848 Jerry Rice.

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all will prob be broken except for completions i say

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the last 2 games, and maybe 3, will likely be meaningless. that is going to slow some of this record setting down imo

vhawk01 11-27-2007 02:31 PM

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So what happens if Brady doesnt break the TD record until week 17? I'm anticipating most people saying mindless things like "a record is a record" but really, he pretty much has to get it done by week 16 doesnt he? Peyton didnt play the last game.

Kneel B4 Zod 11-27-2007 02:33 PM

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So what happens if Brady doesnt break the TD record until week 17?

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